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Jason Redman:
Hey and welcome back to the Overcome and Conquer Show. It is another amazing episode. I got to tell you, we have been crushing it. Our followers, our listeners are growing right and left. We’ve been getting some amazing five-star reviews and this episode is a epic,

Ray Care:
Epic.

Jason Redman:
Epic episode.

Ray Care:
Yeah, this is going to be the biggest one we’ve done.

Jason Redman:
We’ve got a pretty amazing guest on.

Ray Care:
He’s not that amazing. I mean he’s, he’s done a few things, whatever.

Jason Redman:
We should down play him.

Ray Care:
Yeah, but [inaudible 00:02:57] about this fucking guy. He’s Irish. Okay. I’ll give you a hint.

Jason Redman:
Wait, wait, wait, wait, seriously? Dude.

Ray Care:
I thought he was Italian.

Jason Redman:
Oh my God. No. I always thought he was Middle Eastern.

Ray Care:
He looks Middle Eastern.

Jason Redman:
Always thought he was Middle Eastern. That’s so weird. Huh.

Ray Care:
I was his inspiration in the SEAL teams.

Jason Redman:
Of course. As you were for every SEAL that ever walked this planet.

Producer:
Did you carry him also?

Ray Care:
You know, I didn’t need to. I actually rented that out to someone else.

Jason Redman:
You were tired from carrying me.

Ray Care:
McTeams did it for me. But other than that, so he’s okay. I mean, I know this is going to be our biggest episode. Everybody’s going to be like oh my God, you got this guy. But he’s not all that. I’m looking at him right now. He’s just like, wait a minute, what the fuck’s going on?

Jason Redman:
He probably, well, let’s…

Rob O’Neill:
I’m literally like where the fuck [crosstalk 00:03:46]

Jason Redman:
Let’s be real. Hey, you have not been introduced yet! Pipe down. You pipe down sir!

Ray Care:
I can say whatever I want about you right now. You can’t say anything.

Jason Redman:
You have not. You’re, you’re on radio silence right now.

Rob O’Neill:
Sorry about that.

Ray Care:
He’s going to [inaudible 00:04:00] us last.

Jason Redman:
Here’s my question.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
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Ray Care:
Am I the instructor? No, he wouldn’t. I’d make him ring the bell.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, I thought so. I thought so.

Ray Care:
Let’s get into it.

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Ray Care:
Yeah. Well, to be the dominator of your life, to conquer everything that you set your mind to, to overcome everything you set your mind to, and your family, fitness, finance and faith, you know? Between going to The Project and buying Jason Redman’s book, there is nothing you cannot accomplish if you set your mind to it.

Ray Care:
And you know, we also teach you how to, I’m going to use this word lightly, how to be an operator. Hint, hint, wink, wink. So you have the pillars of success, which are teamwork, problem solving, leadership and communication. And then what we do is we focus on the four F-bombs, which are family, fitness, finance and faith to make you a well rounded human being, individual warrior so you can attack, dominate, conquer, overcome and be the operator. I just gave everybody a plug. Everything you do in your life.

Jason Redman:
Well done, well done. All right. Where do they go? If you are interested in learning more about The Project, a huge shout out to The Project for being our presenting sponsor. Where do they go?

Ray Care:
Oh sorry, I was showing him my chest.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, I saw that.

Ray Care:
Well, they go to www.mdkproject.com.

Jason Redman:
And of course guys, if you do not know it, we record the Overcome and Conquer Show and it gets posted to YouTube. So you should check it out and you’ll be able to see two sexy beasts. Well, two and a half. Well, I guess, I don’t know. Is it three or three and a half today? What do we have? There’s two and then producer Ryan has been uping his game. Is he like three quarters now?

Producer:
Three quarters, maybe.

Jason Redman:
Our special guest, is he like half? Or is he three quarters? Or is he one in a quarter? What is he?

Ray Care:
He’s all man.

Jason Redman:
Okay, I love it.

Producer:
Yeah, that’s true.

Jason Redman:
All right, all right, All right.

Ray Care:
Let’s get into it.

Jason Redman:
We’re rolling right into it because this is going to be a great episode. All right guys, without further ado, it is my honor to introduce a teammate. We always love having fellow teammates on the show. This guy is the guy. He has been out there. He served, I believe, 16 years with the SEAL teams. He got out as a senior chief. He served at the highest level. He served in multiple combat theaters. He did, I believe almost a dozen combat deployments or close to it. He has been there. He has done that. He wrote an amazing book called The Operator, but he is most famously known for taking the shot that was heard around the world. I tell you what, I would have spooned out my left nut, literally with a spoon, like literally I would have spooned it out and ate it, to be on this mission.

Ray Care:
Oh yeah. I literally, I told him yesterday, when we were talking. I would’ve got on my knees and sucked the whole bunch of them just to be, just to be on that mission. Man, wow.

Jason Redman:
So, this is the man who’s himself, who was on the sending end of the shot, heard round of the world, who took out the most wanted man in this century, Osama bin Laden. It is our honor to have on The Overcome and Conquer Show, mister Rob O’Neill. What is up, brother? Welcome to The Overcome and Conquer Show. Woo!

Rob O’Neill:
Hey, thanks so much for having me guys. I really appreciate it. And all bullshit aside, we’re going to fuck around. Ray, I’ve always looked up to you. And Jay Redman, you’re a fucking idol. Everything from the note that you wrote when you got shot in Iraq, you’ve been a [inaudible 00:07:59]. Guys, it’s just so awesome to be here. I’m done kissing your asses. We’re going to have fun today. But seriously…

Jason Redman:
Well, hang on.

Ray Care:
No, keep kissing. Keep kissing my ass. Keep kissing.

Jason Redman:
Rob, hang on, hang on. Hey, first off, thank you, I appreciate that.

Ray Care:
Yeah, thank you. Gracias.

Jason Redman:
But right off the bat you said something.

Rob O’Neill:
You mean the world to me, man. Seriously, so thanks for having me.

Jason Redman:
Well, you said something that we know is not true. You said you look up to Ray.

Rob O’Neill:
Oh Ray, [inaudible 00:08:24].

Jason Redman:
No, you said you look up to Ray and Ray was in the Smurf crew with me except I was taller than him in the Smurf crew. So dude. Ray, dude.

Ray Care:
I gave you a fucking Smurf coin too.

Jason Redman:
Is that your thousand-yard stare?

Ray Care:
It doesn’t work here. My thousand-yard stare, let me try it on Rob real quick. Hold on, let me show you, ready?

Rob O’Neill:
That was about [inaudible 00:08:48] bro.

Ray Care:
My thousand, yeah, it doesn’t phase them. It doesn’t phase immortals. Okay.

Jason Redman:
That’s all good. But hey Rob, thank you man. I appreciate that. Dude, it’s always so much fun on the show to have team guys cause, you know, we…

Rob O’Neill:
Oh no, I love it. I want to clear up too, the reason that I named my book The Operator. I’m not calling myself the operator. It’s about the life of the operator. So it’s every SEAL, every Ranger, every Green Baret, what the operator does. How he deals with his family, how he deals with his kids, and you know, where he comes from. I’ve never called myself the operator. This is The Operator. So kind of wanted to point that out. So that’s what teammates do, what the Rangers do, what SEALS do.

Ray Care:
Yeah, I never knew that. I’ve known you for a long time, I never knew that’s why you named it that. I guess I should have fucking asked you probably a long time ago.

Rob O’Neill:
I should’ve been more clear about it too. It’s like guys like Jocko Willink or Jim Kennedy, the fucking, the real tough guys that are out there.

Ray Care:
Nice plug.

Rob O’Neill:
These are the operators. I wrote a book called The Operator about the operator.

Ray Care:
Okay.

Rob O’Neill:
Well they could both choke me out so…

Jason Redman:
That is true. I think Jocko could choke us out. I think Jocko could choke us out with like the force, you know, he could just think about choking us.

Rob O’Neill:
Jocko could choke every one of us out.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, that’s true.

Ray Care:
You know what, I would fight Jocko. Let me tell you why.

Jason Redman:
I would pay money to see this.

Rob O’Neill:
I will pay to see that.

Jason Redman:
Hey, I got your back. I’m right there with you.

Ray Care:
Just because. Well, let me finish. Okay? Because, one, Jocko never answers my calls. I feel like Jocko slept with me. You know, cause we kind of worked together back in the day and then just used me and then abused me. No, I’m kidding. But yeah, it’d be pretty cool to get punched in the face by Jocko as long as there was a medical facility nearby.

Rob O’Neill:
Right nearby, yes. Yeah.

Jason Redman:
Ah, all right. Hey, let’s roll into the show cause we got a lot to talk about. We want to go back to the beginning of who you are and obviously who you became and what you’re doing now and get all that word out there. We got some great content we want to get into. But as we do with every single show, The Overcome and Conquer Show, we have the ‘word of the day’ and the ‘word of the day’, definitely Rob laid down the thunder with this word and I love the way he teed it off and talked about how it has multiple applications, multiple applications, but it has the blunt application obviously, but then it has how we live our lives. So without further ado, Captain Care, which it is your birthday today, that all who know which you don’t know what day we recorded this, but it is an amazing birthday and Captain Care turned 60 today.

Ray Care:
Even the producers laughing though. So no, but I do like this word actually it was like pulling teeth from Rob cause he’s so humble and he was like ah, this and this. But when he said this word, I loved it because if you, if you’re just a one dimensional person with a one dimensional mindset, you automatically think because of what he did. But if you’re three dimensional, and you listen what his definition is, it’s very powerful. It has so many different levels. So without further ado, I’m going to say… What we do, Rob, is I’m going to tell you, obviously repeat what the word of the day is. Tell you what the dictionary version of it is and then we would like you to say what your version is. Then elaborate on it. You ready?

Rob O’Neill:
Yep.

Ray Care:
All right guys, it comes to no surprise where Rob came up with this word. The word is killer. I repeat, killer. Now, let me read the definition to you. Okay. I’ll make sure I get this right. A person or thing that kills. Rob, can you elaborate on that?

Rob O’Neill:
Well, that sums it up, but it’s not like people who watch the video games or do whatever they do. It ain’t cool. It’s, you know, going into a house, picking locks at night and killing people, it’s not awesome. Like, I’ve talked to some buddies of mine, Medal of Honor recipients, Navy SEALS, Marines, you know, the rest of us, we kill these people because we were born in different places. And that’s it.

Rob O’Neill:
And I wonder if like, I’ve got a good friend of mine [inaudible 00:13:12], a Medal of Honor recipient killed a guy with a rock looking at the whites of his eyes and it’s like, would I have liked this guy? Like, would we have not been trying to murder each other, if not born in different places? And that’s as simple as it is, as different religions. And that’s it. And there are people that I’ve shot in the face at night, seriously wondering. PTSD comes at you seven years after you’re done with it. And you wonder, did I just not know him? And that’s it. And so we’d go in there, and I remember killing, I remember being in Iraq and Afghanistan, 2007, 2008, 2009, right? I would kill 11 people a night. And wonder, was this worth it?

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
And just wondering why were we here? Why did we fly in? Why did these team of pilots bring me here? What the fuck are we doing here? So, killer, you know, we would kill so many people that you, you almost…No, like we said, I’m about to turn 44, Ray’s about to turn 70 or something.

Jason Redman:
I think it’s, I mean, I’ve been nice to him at 60 but I think it’s 72. It’s actually the reality. He looks 72.

Ray Care:
You know, I’m trying to let you talk and you can insult me, but go ahead. I’ll keep going. I’ll be quiet.

Rob O’Neill:
But I mean, when you get done, get done with the fight, not even a fight, but then you’re like, wow, okay, why did we do that again?

Jason Redman:
You know and it’s interesting, I see individuals that may not have seen a whole lot of frontline combat, veterans and even individuals that have never been in combat, who obviously, detest the enemy all the way down to the core of their being. Although they may not fully understand or appreciate who they were. And I think that’s something you and I were talking about at the beginning, before we started recording the show. You know, they were a whole lot different from us. You know, they had a belief, we believe obviously in freedom and opportunity. We believe in people having the right to live their life in the way that they should be able to live with freedom and opportunity, here in America. And obviously many of them believed against that. They had a twisted form of their religion that they were using to do everything they could to eradicate and justify, torture and everything else that they thought was fine under that belief.

Jason Redman:
But if you remove that aspect, it was a dedicated person who you were going up against who wanted to fight and take us out exactly the same as we wanted to fight and take them out. And I think we were talking about, at the beginning, you know, if you removed all that as a warrior to a warrior, would we ever have sat down and raised a glass and said, “Hey man, here’s to the guys we lost. You know what, we appreciate each other as warriors.” And I think there’s a lot of warriors throughout history that have come to that level.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah, I think you’re totally right. And I mean not so much Al-Qaeda cause I think they’re a bunch of pussies, but like the Taliban. Guys that are serious fighters, like you could sit down and have a goddamn drink with them. I mean, I respect their attitude, and all it was, was something they were raised by their mom and dad to believe something the opposite of what we believe. Like we talk about faith, I believe in a different type of faith. I was raised Catholic and I’ll fucking kill you. But do we need to go that far? Now that I’m older, I’m not quite as old as, as Ray but…

Jason Redman:
That is true, that is true.

Ray Care:
So let me stop. Let me jump in here right now, Rob. Cause I know numbers and stuff.

Jason Redman:
Hey, don’t pull something.

Ray Care:
No, I’m not.

Rob O’Neill:
Fuck are you doing?

Ray Care:
So, and I know the number, but I’d like you to say it. So how many kills you think you roughly have? I know, you know, and I know, but go ahead, say it.

Rob O’Neill:
Probably over 200.

Ray Care:
Okay, so 200. [inaudible 00:17:15] 200, I like how you’re paying respect to me still. Now here’s the question I have and I’m being serious. I’m being serious.

Rob O’Neill:
I think I’m exactly 208.

Ray Care:
So here’s the question I have and I’m going to be serious for one second. You know, it’s hard to remember all the in-betweens, smoking fools. And like I said, it’s like a resume. I remember the opening and I remember the closing. So obviously you remember the big man, there may be some that are more influential than others, but is there any regret in that 208 of anybody that you ever had to put down?

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah, there’s one dude that I think about every night and he’s the reason that I have cocktails a lot. There’s one guy that I killed in front of his wife and I’m not sure he needed it. It was justified based on rules of engagement. He got out of his bed and he started throwing kicks at me, started throwing punches at me and I remember that looking at him… I did a one man entry, which is probably something you learned in SEAL training, never do it. But he started kicking at me and throwing punches at me and I remember saying, “Is this guy fucking serious?” And I gave him a chance and then he kept doing it. So I shot him and I’ve wondered, was that worth it.

Ray Care:
Well, can you tell me what year that was?

Rob O’Neill:
2007.

Ray Care:
So that’s a long time.

Rob O’Neill:
He had a gun right next to him and actually, he reached for the gun. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not…

Ray Care:
No, I know what you’re saying. You obviously took a clean shot. I understand what you’re saying, but what I think the listeners need to hear is that, you know, there’s always…

Rob O’Neill:
Well, this is the shit that keeps you up at night.

Ray Care:
Yes. That’s what they need to hear. What keeps Rob O’Neill up at night?

Rob O’Neill:
And it wasn’t, look, it’s not like, oh, here’s a dude in a fucking video game. It’s like I shot him in front of his wife. Did this need to happen? And I’m almost like…

Speaker 1:
I shot him in front of his wife. Did this need to happen? And I’m almost like… The thing that keeps me up at night too is like, mother fucker, why are you doing this? Why are you reaching for your gun? Why are you trying to punch me? Knock it off. We can live through this.

Speaker 2:
Or how many targets? I mean, this was something that [crosstalk 00:19:17] you would make entry. You’d roll around the corner and you’d have, you know, some dude down the hallway and there’d be kids, right there?

Speaker 1:
Well I was already-

Speaker 2:
You’re pushing kids out of the way.

Speaker 1:
I’d already shot two dudes on though on entry. Like I already killed two guys on the way in. I just wanted this guy to not-

Speaker 2:
Do that.

Speaker 1:
Not do this. Come on man.

Speaker 2:
All right, well let’s take it to the next level. I want to talk about one other aspect of killing and that is killing it in life, killing it in business, getting out there, having that mindset of just crushing it, just destroying it. Just saying, I don’t care what’s in my path, I’m just going to drive forward. I love telling people that, Hey man, crush it. Go kill it.

Speaker 1:
Yeah. And that’s… Jay, that’s a great point too. And I remember talking to you on the second [inaudible 00:20:07] at the command about… I mean this is before what I did, what I didn’t. And after you did what you didn’t and, you and I would talk about in a [inaudible 00:20:18]. Right by the shitter there, right? The top of the stairs. How did we get to this? How do we kill it? And we’re just talking about killing it and what it is, it’s a mindset.

Speaker 2:
Yes.

Speaker 1:
I’m going to go there and I’m going to kill it. Kind of thing. We brought it out into the private sector, but how do I get really good at what I do? I’m going to fucking kill it. And it’s, wake up in the morning… Like, I woke up today, I went to the airport and I had the TSA guy say, how are you doing today man? I’m like, how am I doing? I’m doing great. Let me tell you why I’m doing great. Because I woke up today, I put both feet on the ground, I stood up, I picked up the newspaper, I looked at the obituaries, my name wasn’t fucking in it. Today’s a good day. It is a good fucking day.

Speaker 2:
Yep. Up to you to make it a great day. Up to you to kill it.

Speaker 1:
Yeah. So that’s… And killing it, again that’s it. You can do anything you want. Keep a positive attitude. Keep your head down, keep moving forward. No matter what, never quit. You’ll be fine. Keep moving forward.

Speaker 2:
Yep, absolutely. Get off that X. Drive forward-

Speaker 2:
You’re welcome Ryan. Producer Ryan. That one’s for you, baby. Shameless plug.

Speaker 1:
The handwritten note that you put on your door at the hospital. People should have it on their door and read it every fucking day. You’re looking for sympathy. Fuck off. It ain’t here.

Speaker 3:
That’s right. So we’re going to ask you another question. But before we do, I always have to put my thing in here. I’m sitting technically in the room with a man who killed Osama bin Laden, another guy that got shot, fucking bakers dozen. You know recently I pulled my calf on the treadmill. So I think I’ve accomplished as much as the two of you combined plus some because I literally… Four days later I’m up and walking. So you’re 40 surgeries is nothing compared to what I went through. And you killing that nobody is nothing compared to the pain that I just went through.

Speaker 2:
But I will say that at 60 years old, it’s not surprising pulling muscles like that. But I will say, I love your video. I love your video, how you showed how you dealt with that pain by wrapping an Icon Meal on the back of your calf, which big shout out to Icon Meals for being a sponsor. But- [crosstalk 00:22:36]

Speaker 3:
I’m learning from you Rob. So, hey, here’s a question. Let’s rewind. Okay? You, Jason, and I have been friends for many years before what happened to him before and before what you did. Excuse me. Let’s talk about Rob growing up. The man that made him the man that he is today and then the pinnacle moment because I remember when mine was, and I know Jason remembers when his. The day that you knew that you wanted to be a Navy SEAL. Because, I know people want to hear that. For me, I was 17 years old. I was told I was a fucking loser because I read this book when I went into the recruiter station, he was like, dude, you can’t do that. You’re 160 pounds. And that moment there, the kid that I was went through pain, went through all this. What I want to know you as a child, and when was the moment that you knew, you were going to be a Navy SEAL?

Speaker 1:
Well, I lucked out because I was… My father and I, my dad is my best friend. He and I used to play basketball together every single day. And I told him one day, I was playing college ball at Montana Tech and I told him that I’m going to leave Butte, Montana, to become a Marine. I want to be a Marine.

Speaker 3:
How, how old were you at this point?

Speaker 1:
18.

Speaker 3:
And had you ever thought about being in the military before?

Speaker 1:
No, never. And my, I had buddies, I grew up with Ben, [inaudible 00:23:59] and Jim McBride that always wanted to be Marines and Bill McBride, was Jim’s dad and, and then his brother was a Marine. I was like, you know what, fuck it. I’m going to join the Marine Corps. So I went down to, I wanted to be a sniper cause I, we grew up hunting. I was like, I want to be like these guys. As luck would have it, the Marine recruiter was not in the office, but the Navy guy was.

Speaker 3:
Wow.

Speaker 1:
And the only reason I went into the Navy guy’s office, because Ben and Jim and Bill had told me that the Marine Corps is actually part of the department of the Navy. It’s just the men’s department.

Speaker 1:
If anybody would know where the Marine was, the Navy, the Navy guy was. So I walked in and I was an hey man, where’s the Marine recruiter? And he goes, why do you want the Marine? So I want to be a sniper. Marines have the best snipers. He said look no further my friend, we have snipers right here in the Navy. You just need to become a Navy SEAL. No big deal. No idea what he was talking about. I remember looking at the recruiter on like, you know, well you know, I don’t know what he’s talking about, but this guy’s a professional recruiter. Why’s he going to lie to me?

Speaker 3:
And this is a, this is like 95, 94?

Speaker 1:
96.

Speaker 3:
96, okay.

Speaker 1:
Actually, 95 went in January 96. And it turns out he just, he, he bullshitted me.

Speaker 3:
No, you’re telling me the recruiter didn’t tell you the truth? [crosstalk 00:25:20]

Speaker 3:
That’s so weird.

Speaker 1:
So I go in the Navy to be a, to become a SEAL. And that was it. As you went up to I w- I was playing college ball at Montana tech and I still had my, my ID to get in and I, I knew I could swim in the pool. I went up to the pool and I’m like, well, you know, 25 yards down, 25 yards back, I’ll swim a thousand yards. I didn’t know how to swim. Fuck, I swear, 50 yards. I’m like, Oh my God, this is exhausting. And a buddy of mine named Mike Driscoll was there and he actually went on to swim in Notre Dame. He looks at me and he goes, O’Neill, don’t take this the wrong way. It’s great to see you, but what are you doing in the pool? I’ve never seen this. I said, I just joined the Navy to be a SEAL. And he goes, no, not like that. You’re not.

Speaker 1:
So here’s a, here’s a Collegiate swimmer that taught me the side stroke and that’s how it went down. So he worked with me every day and night. I, I would, I, you know, I swam 500 yards that day and then a thousand and then I get to 5,000 I finally got to to bootcamp. Okay, I’m good. Shit. We went to buds and it was like, Holy shit. There were guys that played water polo.

Speaker 3:
We had Olympic swimmers. I remember those assholes. Herman’s. And when we did the, the, the super long swim, the seven nautical mile swim, five points, five points, second phase. And we had some guys in our class who were like, they were college and even some of them qualified for the Olympics. And then they did the Waterman’s guilt and I’m like, I fucking hate you. It’s got like six hours.

Speaker 1:
They could swim a lot faster back then [inaudible 00:26:57].

Speaker 3:
The last one was nuts.

Speaker 2:
dude. I came in with Barnum before he quit.

Speaker 2:
Like literally people were done. They like went to dinner, they fucking came back and me and bottom came in and I don’t know if you can remember the big swim, but we did them in the fucking duck feet. No shit. I mean, when I say we were last, there was like, you know, the pissed off instructors because we were cutting into their like, you know their private time,

Speaker 3:
They’re going out. When we did the swim, they, they had us do it. Okay, two zero eight from IB up to Coronado. And they said, well, we know that good surf has been going this way, south for 2000 years, but now it’s going this way. So we did the swim against the current and they actually started pulling us out because the instructor got in trouble because of a, you know, guys getting hypothermia, pull this out. I was like 50 meters away from the finish. We finished on Friday, we get go back in on on Sunday and we’re supposed to do some bullshit. Some bullshit, a mathematical dive, whatever, rescue test. And they said, hey, by the way, since only one pair finished, we’re not going to do the test so put your pencils down. We’re doing it again right now. And that was the meanest shit anyone’s ever done to me.

Speaker 2:
It’s awesome.

Speaker 3:
Yeah, so we had to do the swim twice.

Speaker 1:
Yeah. So we, and I don’t know about you guys, but those duck feet, I mean I’ve got, you know, I’m three feet tall and fucking 220 pounds. I’ve got Fred Flintstone feet, and when I swam in those things, my feet were like this. And the worst part of that swim besides swimming with a rock was an instant bottom or whatever his name was, is when we got out. They were screaming at us. They’re like, come on. So you know, we’re ripping our fucking fins off and we’re trying to go and my feet, I literally could not walk because my feet hurt so bad.

Speaker 1:
So I’m crawling and they’re telling me to get up and I kept falling over. The instructors are laughing at me and I’m literally, I could not walk. And [inaudible 00:28:50] was just like, he literally looked like just a useless tampon sitting on the beach because he just, he just gave up. He just laid there and I’m like, get up man. We’re going to die. And it was like Mayer, Mike Mayer was waiting for us and he was not happy. Yeah. And it just, it went from bad to worse, really bad. You know, and it’s funny when you get Mike Mayer, I’ll never forget, I love Mike. I’ve done, I’ve seen him doing stuff overseas, but he was literally laughing his ass off because, you know, I’m trying to get up. And I looked like one of the, the people that do the Boston marathons where they lose control of their body at the end and they just go off into the stands. I kept trying so hard, but I wouldn’t quit. And while I’m doing this, I’m looking at [inaudible 00:29:29] and he’s literally laying there like in a fetal position. He just gave up on life. I think he quit right after that. But yeah.

Speaker 3:
When we did the second swim, so we did it the first one on Friday. We did the second one on, on Monday. You know how you put, you got a flare on your knife, on your belt. My, my swim buddy was [crosstalk 00:29:50]

Speaker 3:
I just saw Marty a couple of days ago.

Speaker 1:
I love him. He’s the funniest fucking dude ever introduced me to no sex. If you haven’t heard a white trash two heaves and a bean, you’re missed the fuck out. Wow. We’re sitting there and I look over, we’re doing this swimmer inspection and Marty, instead of a flare, he has a King size Snickers bar. They do him knife, but I go, dude, maybe you didn’t have so much trouble. I swear to God if you don’t tell anyone else I’ll split it with you. So we’re two and a half miles in, that was the best god damn snickers bar.

Speaker 2:
The instructors didn’t notice?

Speaker 1:
They didn’t notice. Fuck it. We nailed it.

Speaker 2:
Dude. When we, when we did that swim man, they inspected us and Dan Liccardo was with us.

Speaker 1:
I love Dan Liccardo.

Speaker 2:
They start going down the line and like, I’m not shitting you. Dan had everything like he had gone to the exchange and bought everything he could find like waterproof headphones, radio, Snickers bar, Cliff bars. He had a, he had a North face pop ball jacket under there and like the instructors are just pulling all this shit out. He’s got like a pile of stuff. He’s like got a deployment bag in front of him and then we all got hammered. He looks dumbfounded why they’re doing it and I like, you know, it’s okay.

Speaker 1:
How’s the, how’s Dan doing? I know the got his legs cut off

Speaker 2:
He’s good man.

Speaker 3:
He’s doing great. I actually talked to him a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 2:
He is killing it and we had him on the show.

Speaker 1:
Dan Licarddo, other than Scott Oats is the best looking man I’ve ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3:
And you know what? He’s so, he’s still such an arrogant prick. I love Dan. I don’t say this.

Speaker 1:
Is he really?

Speaker 3:
No, hold on. No, I’m kidding. You don’t. He tells me, I literally said, you know, man, you’re crushing it, blah, blah, blah. Because my wife like literally loves Dan. She like wants to sleep with Dan. And he goes, Hey, you know what’s so cool about losing my legs? This is Dan’s mindset. I go, what? He goes, I’m still fucking taller than you.

Speaker 2:
No [crosstalk 00:31:43].

Speaker 3:
That’s Dan.

Speaker 2:
That’s true. That was funny.

Speaker 1:
Yeah, he’s a, he’s a great dude. I love Dan Licarddo. But what a wonderful man. I mean it’s, I love, I mean, speaking of killing it, like a dude that could, that happened to them and just get the fuck up and get on with life. [inaudible 00:32:02] god damn man, I couldn’t be more proud of you guys. That’s so fucking cool.

Speaker 3:
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Speaker 2:
Well listen, let’s take it back to continue to kill it cause that is the mindset you had. I love this story and I know there’s going to be a ton of young men that listen to this podcast because I get a ton of guys. I know you do. You do. You know these young men that reach out to me and they want advice on making it through training and you, you summed it up in that one statement. You signed up to go to SEAL training without even knowing how to swim and you’re not the only one. I know a lot of guys who were similar to this because what what we try and explain to people, dude, it ain’t physical, you know you can figure out the physical, it’s mental and you displayed that dudes.

Speaker 1:
Dudes just get it.

Speaker 1:
There are dudes that get it. We have our, you guys both know. We have our one percenters. We got to Phil Ryans. We got the Dan Licarrdos, we got the Scott Oats. They can smoke cigarettes all night and run the five minute miles. But the rest of us, we get it.

Speaker 3:
Yeah.

Speaker 1:
[crosstalk 00:34:00] We’re just show up and get it and well, I got a, one of my best stories is I had a dude, 16 year old kid that wanted to become a Navy seal. And he goes, I’m going to get a buzz. What should I do to prepare? And I said, well, let me answer your question with a question. What are you doing to prepare? And he said, he said, I’m a, I’m taking cold showers to get used to it. And I said, fuck that. Knock that off right now. Let me tell you why. If I told you in 30 days, I’m going to kick you in the nuts as hard as I can. And in order to get ready for it, you had your best friend kick you in the nuts every fucking day. Guess what? It’s still going to suck when I do it. So take warm showers. Take warm showers. You can be a Navy SEAL, that’s it.

Speaker 3:
It’s true. I mean, I try to explain that. I so did you ever know Gary Jackson? Gary was a crazy, so I worked for Gary before I went to BUD/S and he, and you know, I mean.

Speaker 1:
Small world.

Speaker 3:
Yeah, the Gary crazy, that crazy fucker. So Gary was like, you’re too skinny. When I was getting ready to go to BUD/S and I’ll walk, man, you know, I was 130 pounds soaking wet back then and he’s like, you need to go sit in the Bay every day. And it’s winter in Virginia Beach. I worked at Little Creek then and he was like, you need to go sit in the Bay every day and that’s going to get you ready for BUD/S. Well, I did it and I came to find out, Oh yeah, I came to find out he was sitting in quarters every day talking about, dude, I got this young [inaudible 00:16:41] sitting in the back laughing his ass off at me. But I did it. And then I went out to training. And you’re absolutely right. I’ll admit for about the first three or four days, I was like, Oh, the water is not too bad out here. But after that it just sucked exactly the same. It didn’t get any better.

Speaker 3:
I, I’ve so, so many kids. I was like, you know what? They said, you know what, I’m, I’m not good at pull ups. How do I get better at pull ups. I’m like, no, it’s simple. You do pull ups. Yep. You all, you want to get better pull ups. Fucking do pull up.

Speaker 2:
Yep.

Speaker 1:
You know, I love this, but do you ever get, and I know you have, do you ever get like stupid fucking questions? Like I get stupid. Like, Here you go, ready? Here’s like my favorite and like I’m supposed to know, but maybe you know, maybe, you know, how many pushups do you do a day? How far do you run? Do you have to know? Here’s my favorite one. Do you have to be a good swimmer? And I’m thinking of myself before I tell you, you’re just a complete and utter moron.

Speaker 2:
Obviously not.

Speaker 1:
Yeah, you don’t, I mean, the thing is, is right.

Speaker 1:
Self-taught, self-made. That’s how I did it. You know, it’s fucking dumb dumb kid. You know, I literally sink in the water, but you know, if you want it bad enough, I mean, Lily, Trisha, my wife who I’m dying for you to meet, I’ll do the combat side stroke and she’ll watch me in the water. I look like I’m fighting the water and I actually, I have actually, and you know where I’m talking about in certain training in a certain place where we had a wrap our cammies around our fucking hands and swim. TK Epli told me, and I quote, he goes, dude, how the fuck do you swim backwards? Because I was so stupid. I was actually going like this and kicking at the same time. And I wasn’t going anywhere until he finally like jumped in the water and looked at me and goes, dude, you did graduate BUD/S, right?

Speaker 1:
I’m like, yeah, he was like ,you were on a seal team before you came here, right? I’m like, yeah, but all he did was he just said, okay, stop smacking, start pooling. And I did it.

Speaker 2:
Start pooling, yes.

Speaker 1:
The questions, you know, and I think the problem with the SEAL teams now is Xbox, PlayStation, the movies. Everybody just thinks, you know, if you have great hair like me, yours is okay.

Speaker 2:
Amazing.Amazing.

Speaker 1:
Thank you. But people want to see, I think for me, the, the, the success was the, the climb not graduate and graduating BUD/S was awesome. Again, you’re not a SEAL when you graduate BUD/S, but you still have to go to your [inaudible 00:18:42] team and get your ass kicked. But when I graduated BUD/S, I remember I couldn’t remember fucking anything except, wow. I remember looking around at graduation, but how the fuck did I get here? And that’s what, that’s what I think about is the [crosstalk 00:37:55].

Speaker 2:
I was, Monday of walk week at the end of BUD/S like we’re graduating Friday [inaudible 00:38:03]

Rob O’Neill:
… buds. We’re graduating Friday, and I’m going to dental. I’m going to medical where you get our shit done. It’s like, Holy shit. Now, I need to be a Navy SEAL. What the fuck? What the fuck now? How the fuck did I make it?

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
How did I get here? How did they get here?

Rob O’Neill:
Oh, and Patricia, by the way, that was a goddamn, totally staged video, the one with her dancing in the kitchen.

Speaker 5:
Maybe. Maybe not.

Rob O’Neill:
No, it was staged. Fuck, I loved it.

Speaker 5:
Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh.

Rob O’Neill:
But, oh, I’ve watched it a bunch of times, holding it up with one hand. [crosstalk 00:00:32].

Speaker 6:
She’ll appreciate that. I don’t, but she will.

Speaker 5:
Hey, let’s fast forward. I wanted-

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
Because a lot of people … I try to explain to people that the SEAL Teams alone, have probably done over 10,000 missions-

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
… since nine, 11 started. And there’s a lot of missions that, obviously, get a ton of [inaudible 00:38:55], the nature of those missions. There were hostage rescues. There were high level targets, like the one you were on. But there are things that occur, that just stand out. Whether, it’s something funny or whether it’s just a suck factor that you’re like-

Rob O’Neill:
You know what? There’s a lot of things that stand out, and one of them … and you were there when we went after Marcus Luttrell. Lone Survivor. And we were awake for three straight days, and we’re up on the mountain, and I remember looking at one of my guys, and I’m saying, “This is why Hell Week is so hard, because if we wanted to quit right now, where the fuck are we going to go?

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
We’re just here. And I remember looking around. I’ve got Air Force guys, I’ve got Marines, Rangers. We’re just sticking each other with IVs. This is one of the first missions I was ever on with SEAL Team Six. And we’re sticking each other with IVs. And I remember calling in a A-10, and we found those fuckers that shot down the helo, and well, we call in an A-10. And the way that the A-10 sounded was, you could see the smoke, you could hear the report, you’d hear it land, and then you’d hear it shoot.

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
Just fast. Right? Well, it’s like, [inaudible 00:40:12]. And I’m standing there with this Marine, and this Marine says … he goes, “I guess it’s true what they say, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, except an A-10. An A-10 will fucking kill you.”

Speaker 6:
Yeah, it will. Dude-

Rob O’Neill:
We did that shit, and we … and the Rangers ended up grabbing Marcus. And then, they were back home, and I was at my daughter’s a tea party, at her preschool. And she was four years old. And she’s 15 now, works at Chick-fil-A. And we got a called to go rescue Captain Phillips. So, I’m standing at Virginia Beach at my daughter’s thing, and we get a page, and 15 hours and 46 minutes later, we got 103 guys in the Indian Ocean. The [inaudible 00:40:59]. And then, my buddy [Sonny 00:41:01] shot them, and I remember looking at him and going, “God damn man, you just did the most important thing in the history of the SEAL Teams. And he goes, “Yeah, I know. Can we go home?”

Rob O’Neill:
And just how cool he was. His gun was sighted in for the most difficult shot he’d ever take in his life. And his gun didn’t need to be sighted in for the most difficult … because SEAL Team Six has never done, in 25 years. It was sighted in. He took the shot and we went home. And then, we’re chilling out after a goddamn deployment, and they called us in a room and said, “Hey, the reason you’re here is we found a thing, and this thing is in a house. This house is in a bowl, in the country, and you guys are going to go get him.” [inaudible 00:41:37], what’s this thing? We can’t tell you. Okay. Well, where are we going? What’s the … Can’t tell you. How are we getting there? Can’t tell you. How much air support? None.

Rob O’Neill:
And I was, “Okay.” And then, he finds out later that we ran into the girl, [Maya 00:00:41:50]. It was bin Laden. And it was just one of those things, where they happen to call us in a room. Actually, the funniest part of that story, was being in a room with my boys, And our bosses said … We were awake for about three days again, they sent us [inaudible 00:42:06]. We were coming back on Sunday. We’re going to read you in on what’s happening. Well, we’re like, “Who’s going to be there to read it?” They’re like, “Well, the vice president, secretary of defense.” They were like, “Holy shit. This is big.” And they’re going down the list. It’s at CTC [Patt 00:04:21]. We’ll be there. And we’re like, “Hey, this is [inaudible 00:42:23].” But then I’m like … I was like, “Hey, hold on a sec here. If CTC Patt is counter-terror [inaudible 00:42:27] Afghans … We thought we were going to Libya for Gaddafi.

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
CTC Patt. Why the fuck is he there? So, we went home and then we came back in on Sunday. They put us in four different vans, and I got my buddy, who’s driving the truck, and we’re driving, we got four guys per van, we’re driving down. And I said, “Hey … I explained, exactly this to them. I said, “Well, this isn’t Gaddafi. They found bin Laden. That’s what this is.” And my boss was sitting next to me, and he goes, “That’s exactly what I was thinking.” So, he and I looked at each other, and my buddy, who was driving, he looks at me in the rear view mirror, and he goes, “Man, [O’Neill 00:00:43:02], if we kill Osama bin Laden I will suck your dick.”

Speaker 6:
And?

Rob O’Neill:
So, three weeks to the day, we’re standing over bin Laden’s body. And I go, “Hey homie, now’s a good time to-

Speaker 5:
Yeah. Drop trout bro.

Speaker 6:
Hey Rob, that’s an amazing history of what you’ve done. But I have to disagree with you with one of those. I hate to disagree with you, but one thing that you’ve said is not true, and I hate to call you out in front of all these people, but-

Rob O’Neill:
No worries. [inaudible 00:43:31].

Speaker 6:
It’s okay. But I was in Captain Phillips, the movie. Okay? Okay?

Rob O’Neill:
I saw you. I saw you.

Speaker 6:
Did you … If you blinked I was gone. But are you okay? Are you okay? I am the one who rescued-

Rob O’Neill:
Weren’t you the shore guy?

Speaker 6:
Yeah. I was-

Speaker 5:
Hey, Ray [crosstalk 00:00:43:48]-

Speaker 6:
I had him on an [crosstalk 00:43:49].

Speaker 5:
… but he’s stayed at a Holiday Inn-

Speaker 6:
I did.

Speaker 5:
… Express the night before. So-

Speaker 6:
Right. But let me tell you what. Tom loved me. And he said, “Jesus.” And I said, “Yes.” I did this in real life and here I am now. And he says, “Thank you for what you did.” So, just so you know, Tom Hanks-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:00:44:02]. That’s awesome. And when we launched at [Yemen 00:44:07] it was just so cool that … giving my daughter a kiss. Well, she was … I have this one daughter who was always there. She was one when we after Marcus, and she was four after Captain Phillips, but she was seven when we went after bin Laden, and that was a mission where we knew we were going to die. We’re going to … We’re not coming home. This is a one way mission, man. We’re not coming home. And I actually talked to the point man, who … It was never supposed to be like that, but you know, you’ve been in missions, guys were sometimes it just … shit goes sideways. And that’s me and the point man going up the stairs, he pulled me aside before the mission-

Speaker 5:
Rob. Rob, what are you talking about? Everything went according to exactly to plan on every mission I was on.

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:44:55].

Speaker 5:
I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Rob O’Neill:
So, this,

Speaker 5:
Hey, wait. Wait, I want to go back for one second. Hold that thought, because I want to go back to that van and that initial moment when you guys were like, “Holy shit.”

Rob O’Neill:
It’s bin Laden.

Speaker 5:
We’re going to get bin Laden. And then, that … fast forward to that point where you’re like, this is a one way mission. How quickly did that set in? That-

Rob O’Neill:
Well, it was more of-

Speaker 5:
… [crosstalk 00:45:22] thought process.

Rob O’Neill:
It was more of a realization. We were like, “All right. Fuck it. We know what this is now. We’re going. We’re fucking going.” Well, that’s what I’m saying. When the point man, he pulled me aside and said, “Hey, don’t take this the wrong way. I’m going. I’m going.” But I just need to say it out loud. If we know we’re going to die, why are we going? I just need to say it. So, we smile at each other, and we’re standing around the model of bin Laden’s house, to scale, to … down to the goddamn trees.

Rob O’Neill:
And we decided that we’re not going for fame, and we’re not going for the reward. We’re going after Osama bin Laden for the single mom that dropped her kids off at elementary school on a Tuesday morning, and 45 minutes later she jumped to her death out of a skyscraper. And her last gesture of human decency, was holding her skirt down, so no one could see her underwear as she murdered herself. She’s not supposed to be in the fight. We’re supposed to be in a fight. And that’s where we’re fucking going.

Speaker 5:
Amen.

Rob O’Neill:
And that was it. And that was it. I mean-

Speaker 5:
And dude, I got to tell it. So one, I got a good friend, Tim Brown, who’s a New York firefighter. He’s one of the few that survived when the towers fell. And yeah, Tim and all those guys that were there … I mean, regardless of where people stand, you took him out.

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:46:50].

Speaker 5:
And I know I fucking celebrated. I woke my kids up that night. It was like wake up, wake up. The guy, the reason I got shot all [inaudible 00:46:59] from this dude right here.

Rob O’Neill:
Every fucking day-

Speaker 5:
And he is dead.

Rob O’Neill:
Well, we … there’s this thing right now in the … at the … And all of your listeners need to get up to New York City.

Speaker 5:
I was just going to say that. They need to see that museum.

Speaker 6:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
Because.

Rob O’Neill:
But we have a … there’s an exhibit there for 18 months, which is the hunt for bin Laden. And it was … 18 months it’s open. And you walk in there, and everyone is interviewed, from me, the nine other guys on the mission, blue team guys, red team guys, and then Hillary Clinton and fucking bin … Barack Obama. And you stand over at … At the end of it, you stand around this-

Speaker 5:
Wait, wait, wait Rob. You did an interview and Hillary’s in the same … because-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:47:46].

Speaker 5:
… you know, as survived this entire war, but if you do something with Hillary, you’re probably going to end up dead.

Speaker 6:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
Well, she didn’t-

Speaker 5:
I’m sorry.

Rob O’Neill:
… actually kill [inaudible 00:47:53].

Speaker 5:
I’m sorry. I’m just telling you. I’m just saying.

Rob O’Neill:
You stand over this 10 to 15 foot screen and it shows everything that happened, and you hear the interviews. Everything from president Obama, to Hillary Clinton, to me, to Secretary Gates, to other guys talking, and they walked you through the entire mission. To the girls. There was a couple girls that found bin Laden. And it walks you through the whole thing. You just sit there. And it’s only there for … it’ll be another 10 months. I highly recommend everyone go up and see it.

Speaker 5:
Yeah, I … a thousand. I haven’t seen that one. And I’ve been up there multiple times. And I’ve walked through-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:48:29].

Speaker 5:
I’ve walked through with Tim. I’ve walked through with other firefighters, who lost family members on that day.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
So-

Rob O’Neill:
And even with … even going through the memorial, there are certain parts that have warnings as you walk through. Like, you might not be able to handle this. And it’s firefighters going in the South Tower. You can hear their … the way they’re talking to each other, and how they didn’t … It was [inaudible 00:48:55] on the mission. It wasn’t a handshake. It was a hug.

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
And we’re going to go die now.

Speaker 5:
Yep. Tim’s-

Rob O’Neill:
Amazing. Amazing. Amazing.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. Tim’s best friend-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:49:04]-

Speaker 5:
… was one of those guys.

Rob O’Neill:
… [crosstalk 00:49:06] firefighters. [crosstalk 00:49:07].

Speaker 5:
Hell yeah, dude. Who knew that they weren’t … So many of them knew, when they went up those stairs, they weren’t coming out. But that-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:49:12].

Speaker 5:
That section, where you see the pictures of people jumping out of the building, it is gut wrenching.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
And people need to see that. People need to see-

Rob O’Neill:
They do.

Speaker 5:
… that they-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:11:22].

Speaker 5:
[crosstalk 00:49:22].

Speaker 6:
… [crosstalk 00:49:22] contributed to this.

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:49:23] say the fucking Pledge of Allegiance.

Speaker 7:
I want to know where you were on-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:49:25].

Speaker 7:
When nine, 11 happened, where were you?

Rob O’Neill:
I was overseas, at Unit Two. I was with SEAL Team Two.

Speaker 7:
Where were you at?

Speaker 5:
I was at school. And I had just started at ODU. And me, and I won’t say his name, because he’s still active, but we were together going through school. And I remember, man, I’ll never forget, I was getting a cup of coffee at the student center and the kid behind the counter was just laughing nervously as he hands me my coffee. You know? Like that uncomfortable-

Speaker 7:
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
… super nervous. And he hands me my coffee and I’m going, “Dude, you okay?” And he goes, “Ha ha. A plane just crashed into The World Trade Center and the Pentagon’s on fire.” And I was like, “That’s weird.” And I walk-

Rob O’Neill:
That’s weird.

Speaker 5:
I walk-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:50:11] watching in.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. And I walked over to the student center, the T.V. was on, and my buddy came up next to me and we watched the whole thing unfold. And we looked at each other and we’re like-

Rob O’Neill:
Well, I mean-

Speaker 5:
… “We’re going to war.”

Rob O’Neill:
… even to … just give a shout out to Stephen Siller, who was a firefighter. And Frank Siller started, it’s called Tunnel to Towers.

Speaker 7:
Yeah. Great group.

Rob O’Neill:
Steven Siller had just a finished his shift as our NYP … or, I’m sorry, FDNY. Driving to the towers, he turned around to go back and they wouldn’t let him through. So he stopped his truck and ran, tunneled the towers, and died in the South tower.

Speaker 5:
Yep. And they do that run every year. So, if anybody’s-

Rob O’Neill:
Every year. [Crosstalk 00:50:51]-

Speaker 5:
… ever wanted to-

Rob O’Neill:
We should do it this year. I mean … Well, let’s do it. Let’s do it this year.

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
Ray’s got short legs, so you might be able to-

Speaker 5:
Well, he’s got that pulled calf, so you know.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 6:
I’m still pissed off because nobody asked where I was when nine, 11 happened. We know where the fuck Rob-

Speaker 5:
Where were you?

Speaker 6:
Yeah, I ain’t telling you. I ain’t-

Speaker 5:
Where were you?

Speaker 6:
… telling you. I was serving-

Rob O’Neill:
[inaudible 00:00:51:13].

Speaker 6:
… my country.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. Where were you?

Speaker 6:
I was at Fort Lee going through [ALICE 00:51:16] course. A air load drop inspector course. Actually, [STV 00:51:19] actually recalled me back.

Speaker 5:
So, how did you find out though? I mean, what-

Speaker 6:
We were doing inspections for ducts and shit like that. Throwing stuff out of planes. Planes and helicopters guys.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah. For [inaudible 00:51:33]. Of course.

Speaker 6:
Well, no. Just for the people that don’t know what I’m talking about. And one of the instructors, they, I guess, I don’t know, someone higher up is [East-78 00:51:43]. I can’t remember what … They had an office and he came out and was like, “Everybody stop what you’re doing.”

Speaker 6:
And we’re like, “Oh, shit. We’re in trouble.” And I remember I was there with two other seals, Marco [Sharbara 00:51:54] and I can’t remember the other guy. And they were like, “Shit hits … it’s just hit the fan.” And we actually thought, at first, it was a joke. And then, we were like, “What?” And, shit, not … probably, five minutes later STV team two texted me and said, “Hey, we need you back here, because you’re in a course that you’re pretty much never going to use.”

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah. [crosstalk 00:52:13] we got to [inaudible 00:14:11]. We got to get-

Speaker 6:
Yeah. Because a lot of the teams, you know as I … well as I do, some were going to the Pentagon, some were going to New York, so … to do damage control.

Rob O’Neill:
Well, and at that point too, as much shit as we give STV, that’s probably going to be the guys to do shit. You know.

Speaker 6:
Yeah.

Rob O’Neill:
You got to [inaudible 00:52:31] back. We had you diving forever, but now we might need you. So let’s fucking rock and roll.

Speaker 5:
Producer Ryan, where were you on nine, 11?

Speaker 7:
Ryan. I was going to Full Sail. I was in the studio all night, and then we had class from nine, because Full Sail has crazy hours. And they sent us home and I watched the second plane crash. It was-

Speaker 5:
What were your thoughts?

Speaker 7:
It was very sad. I was crying. It was very sad.

Speaker 5:
Crazy.

Speaker 6:
It was more like a numb doll feeling. I was like, you don’t fucking come to our house, and do this shit oh shit. You know? I was like-

Speaker 5:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 6:
And obviously, the minute it happened, first thing I’m thinking is let’s find out who the fuck this is and smoke these fools. I mean, I don’t care how unpolitical I sound, I wanted-

Rob O’Neill:
My first thought was, Holy fuck, they’re doing it on purpose.

Speaker 6:
Yeah.

Speaker 5:
Oh, that’s what I-

Speaker 6:
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5:
… thought too.

Speaker 6:
Exactly.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. I knew. I knew-

Speaker 6:
Especially after the second.

Speaker 5:
… when the second tower hit.

Speaker 6:
Yup.

Speaker 5:
I was like-

Speaker 6:
Yeah. That’s not a-

Speaker 5:
… we’re at war, we’re going to war.

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:53:22].

Speaker 5:
I tried to get out of school.

Rob O’Neill:
And then when it, then when it shit got real was with Fifi, with Neil Roberts.

Speaker 5:
Yeah.

Speaker 6:
Yup.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. which We just had that anniversary yesterday.

Speaker 6:
Yesterday.

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:00:53:32]. And then, It’s like, Motherfuckers are … All right. You want to fucking fight us? All right.

Speaker 5:
Yeah. Game on.

Rob O’Neill:
All right. Fuck you. I’ll fight you.

Speaker 6:
So, Let’s fast forward, man. Let’s fast forward to nine years later. Nine years later, you were in that building.

Rob O’Neill:
Yeah.

Speaker 6:
And a lot of people don’t understand the way … the flow … I’ll just say, you never know who’s going to end up where-

Rob O’Neill:
No.

Speaker 6:
… within a target.

Rob O’Neill:
We had no idea. And I was just … The only reason I was there was because I was, I would … And again, I was just too afraid to not go. I got to go in the room. And it turned out to be a couple of us going up from the … Because the woman that found bin Laden well-

Speaker 6:
Take me back to that moment. Take me back. You’re on that stairwell and your heart’s pumping in your chest.

Rob O’Neill:
She told us that, “I don’t know what it looks like inside, but you’re going to run into a stairwell, and you’re going to run into Khalid bin Laden.” And here’s how cool she was. She goes, “And if you ace the lead, you get a shot at the big guy.” That’s how she said. How dope is that? Right? Totally cool. And so, we’re … I watched my boys breached. There was a door going up. They breached the door and then … I was eight guys back or whatever. And, normally going up stairs in an urban environment, I’m going to fuck people up. I’m going to pull them back, but I know we’re going to die. So now I’m like, well, I got to watch this. Right? So, I’m looking up and the point man was it front. I got seven dudes in front of me.

Rob O’Neill:
Khalid was there and he jumped behind his Banister. And I’m looking up and I’m like, Holy shit, this is the two grown ass men with guns and they’re trying to murder each other. I’m not leaving. I got to see how this goes down. And the point man realized that, that’s Khalid. And I shit you not, it was something like this, and I’m sure someone watching will correct my language, but he went, “Khalid, [foreign language 00:55:39]. Khalid, [foreign language 00:17:40]. Like, come here, come here in two different languages. Khalid spoke, and Khalid put his head over the goddamn [crosstalk 00:55:48]a.

Speaker 6:
There we go. And so, he blast him in the face. I’m like, that’s the coolest fucking thing.

Rob O’Neill:
And I was right, for about eight seconds, because we [inaudible 00:55:58] the corner on his Khalid, he shot him right in the face, and as we go to the second floor there’s the point man. And everyone else split off. So, they’re clearing this room … these rooms, and then I turn into two man. So, I got my hand on the point man. And he’s looking at the stairs, and we got one more thing to go. And we knew damn well that she said, “If you kill Khalid you get a shot at bin Laden.” And so, I know he’s up there and, I know he’s putting a goddamn bomb on something.

Speaker 6:
Yeah. So what was your thought in that moment? I mean, here you are-

Rob O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:18:31].

Speaker 6:
… you’re outside that room, you’ve made hundreds and hundreds of combat entries.

Rob O’Neill:
My thought’s were, “I’m tired of thinking about it. Let’s get it over with. And I’m thinking … So, I’m squeezing them, and I want more guys in the … It was so funny, because I had my last laugh. So, we’re looking up, there’s a curtain there, and he’s saying, “Hey man, we got to go. We got to go. We got to fucking go. We got to go.” And I’m like … And he goes, “Hey man, these bitches is getting truculent.” And I remember laughing in his ear. And I was, like … I said … I laughed, I go, “I don’t think [inaudible 00:57:03] …

Robert O’Neill:
… Laughing in his ear. I laughed and I go, “I don’t think that word means what you think it means.” And it’s one of those- [crosstalk 00:57:07].

Jason Redman:
That’s some funny stuff that happens on target man.

Robert O’Neill:
A [inaudible 00:57:10] in the gun fight and fuck it.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
So we went up the stairs and he pushed the curtain, and I turned… How he doesn’t have a Medal of Honor is beyond me.

Jason Redman:
Wow.

Robert O’Neill:
But he jumped on these two women that he thought were going to blow up and because he went here, I went here, and there’s Bin Laden-

Ray Care:
Wow.

Robert O’Neill:
… and I shot him in the face three times. Or as I say on my Twitter panel, thrice.

Jason Redman:
Thrice.

Ray Care:
Thrice.

Jason Redman:
So what… I mean, man- [crosstalk 00:00:34].

Robert O’Neill:
After I shot Bin Laden, Amal Bin Laden was there and I grabbed her, and then his two year old son was there.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
Oh.

Robert O’Neill:
And I remember looking at this kid and as a father I was like, “This poor kid’s fucking got nothing to do with this man.”

Jason Redman:
That’s what I hated. Yeah.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
Seeing the kids on target.

Robert O’Neill:
[crosstalk 00:57:50]. I picked him up and held him and I was like, “This kid doesn’t need to be any more scared than he is.” And I sat him down next to his mom on the bed and then other Navy Seals are coming and doing shit. I’m kind of standing there and it sinks in. And one of my buddies, I can’t say his name now, but he goes, “Hey man, you good?” And I said, “No, what do we do now?” And he goes, “Now we find the computers. We do this every single night. Hundreds of times.” I said, “Holy shit, you’re right. I’m back.”

Jason Redman:
Yeah, yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
“Yeah, you just killed Osama bin Laden your life has changed. Let’s get to fucking work.” I’m like, “Really?”

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
That was it and yeah, we went to work.

Jason Redman:
Wow. Damn.

Robert O’Neill:
And it was just a guy; a team guy like you guys turning the corner. That’s all it was.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
Yep.

Jason Redman:
Yep. Right place. Right time, bro.

Ray Care:
Yep.

Jason Redman:
But, awesome.

Robert O’Neill:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
So-

Robert O’Neill:
I was able to get there because of the guys in front of me. I was able to get there because of the women that found him. I was able to get there because the pilots that got us in there. It was never me. It was just… What the fuck man.

Ray Care:
Love it.

Jason Redman:
So obviously your life has changed drastically. I got a personal question to ask you. It’s a deep question, and you and I were talking about it at the beginning. The publicity for the teams is a double edged sword.

Ray Care:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Jason Redman:
And I know- [crosstalk 00:59:12].

Robert O’Neill:
I could not agree more.

Jason Redman:
And I hear it on my side. I know Ray’s heard it. I hear it from different sides, but obviously there are guys out there that disagree with you talking about it.

Robert O’Neill:
They do. I know they do.

Jason Redman:
What are your thoughts on that?

Robert O’Neill:
You know what I mean? It sucks. I would be the same way. One of our good friends and we’re not going to bring him up, jumped into Somalia to rescue Jessica Buchanan. And I remember watching him jump thinking, “Fuck him. Why am I not that guy?” But, I love him and we all know who he is. Great fucking dude. And then with another guy that shot the pirates that rescued Phillips. I love him. And it just fucking sucks. I mean the first thing I’ll say is, whichever bullshit Master Chiefs wrote that fucking ethos, they can go fuck themselves because that was never, never anything. It was never, “I’m that man. I’m the noble…”. Fucking bullshit. Fuck you. You went to San Clemente Island and drank a bunch of whiskey and wrote some bullshit. It just sucks. I never wanted my name out there. I was going to retire at 30 years.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
When I killed Bin Laden, all of a sudden I got to get out. It just sucks, man.

Jason Redman:
Well listen, you’re doing other great things now.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
You’re out there. You’re spreading a message of positivity. You are running an organization. So, it was your Grateful Nation that has now become the Special Operators Transition Foundation.

Robert O’Neill:
Yes.

Jason Redman:
Tell us a little bit about that.

Robert O’Neill:
Well, what I learned and what you guys have learned is that it’s very, very difficult to get out of the military because you don’t realize what you’re capable of.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
And I got out at 16 and a half years. I didn’t have a degree. Didn’t know what I was going to do, but it turns out a lot of people want people that can solve problems; show up. And a lot of the special operators have skills that what we realize as Navy Seals. I can talk to you. I can talk to each other. We can solve problems. I can communicate effectively. I can lead. I can be led. I can do all this stuff.

Robert O’Neill:
So a lot of Green Berets, a lot of Rangers, a lot of Navy Seals were… I get them out there and they… A company hires them and six months later they’re the best people that ever worked with. So, that’s what I’m doing now. So transitioning people is the best we have. We’re having a golf tournament April 27th. You guys should come down. West Palm Beach.

Jason Redman:
Jack, okay.

Ray Care:
I love West Palm.

Robert O’Neill:
We’ve got some celebrities coming; Ricky Fowler, Kid Rock, Terry Bradshaw, Dan Marino. You guys are welcome to be in my foursome, and we probably won’t get out there on the green. We’ll just drink a lot of whiskey.

Ray Care:
Kid Rock never returns my DMs. He never returns my calls. He doesn’t-

Robert O’Neill:
Do you need me to get you in touch with him?

Ray Care:
You tell that motherfucker that-

Jason Redman:
It’s a little awkward though. You keep writing him that you want to sleep with him.

Robert O’Neill:
He was in my wedding. He’s a good dude.

Ray Care:
Yeah, I know he is. He knows you, but… Does he know that you’re inspired by me? I mean, fuck. It’s bullshit.

Robert O’Neill:
I was talking to him about you and I was like, “Ray just needs to kill more famous people.” It’s easy.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
Yeah. I might have to. I don’t do that no more. I’m a civilian now.

Robert O’Neill:
[crosstalk 01:02:30]. No seriously dude, you guys just think about that. I mean, we can do this April 27th. You should think about it.

Ray Care:
Did you say golf?

Robert O’Neill:
Well, yeah. I mean, we’ll hang out. We’ll drink. We don’t even have to-

Ray Care:
I’m just going to let you know, I can’t play golf. I mean, I will. Literally, Jason invited me to an event.

Jason Redman:
I did. [crosstalk 01:02:49]. Dude, he was so nervous. He kept going, “So I don’t have to play right. They’re not going to get me out there and play?”.

Ray Care:
In fucking Top Golf, I will fucking smoke you, but if I have to put the ball in the hole, I don’t like to say that word- [crosstalk 01:03:02].

Robert O’Neill:
I got hit up… One of the psychiatrists from Team Six said, “Yeah, you don’t have any hobbies. You need to get a hobby, so take up golf to relieve combat stress.” I’m like, “Are you fucking kidding me?”.

Jason Redman:
Yeah dude, that is about the worst sport in the world to try- [crosstalk 00:01:03:16].

Ray Care:
It’s horrible.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
It makes me angry.

Jason Redman:
I finally have gotten to the point where I let it go and I just accept that I suck at it.

Ray Care:
Oh, god.

Jason Redman:
But, I enjoy it. I do enjoy it and I stopped getting wrapped around- [crosstalk 00:06:27].

Robert O’Neill:
You guys should think about coming down. We can get together.

Ray Care:
I would.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
They actually call me Happy Gilmore on steroids when I play because I’m just fucking pissed off at the world.

Jason Redman:
Yeah. I’ll take a look. I am cranking right now, so-

Ray Care:
It’s a Saturday. I mean, it’s a Monday.

Robert O’Neill:
Yeah, look at it.

Jason Redman:
… yeah, let me see what I got going-

Robert O’Neill:
April 27th. If not-

Jason Redman:
We’re-

Robert O’Neill:
If not, we just got to get together. We can do an in person interview.

Ray Care:
Where do people go to find the organization? Online-

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
Right now it’s at yourgreatfulnation.org.

Ray Care:
Okay.

Jason Redman:
So it’ll be redirecting to Special Operators Transition Foundation-

Robert O’Neill:
Yep. Yep.

Jason Redman:
… and it is helping special operators. And I got to tell you man, it is a tough world out there.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
When you leave the military and you leave such a structured, disciplined, mission focused environment, the civilian world doesn’t necessarily work that way, which is one of the great reasons why those of us that are out there teaching things like The Projects, like LTD, getting up on a stage and speaking to companies about leadership and resiliency. I love doing it. And companies eat it up because they need it. They want it.

Robert O’Neill:
Well, [inaudible 00:07:21]. It’s the right thing, and Jay, I want to let you know too that I bring you up quite a bit. I do. I give speeches at different companies and that note you wrote when you were in the hospital, the inspiration for… Motherfuckers should read that every morning when they wake up. I’m very proud of you. I’m proud to call you a friend and a brother, and kick ass job.

Jason Redman:
Thank-

Robert O’Neill:
And Ray I mean you’re obviously, it’s easy on the eyes man. Fuck yeah, thank you.

Jason Redman:
Thank you. All right, so let’s see. We’ve talked about all that. That last thing, man. What does patriotism mean to you? We were talking about this yesterday. We had a guest on and we were talking about that. It just seems like patriotism is waning a little bit in this country. There’s a lot of division and man, you look at how unified this country was when 9/11 happened-

Robert O’Neill:
Exactly. It’s-

Jason Redman:
… even the night that you guys killed Bin Laden and now suddenly we’re just divided. What does it mean to you?

Robert O’Neill:
It’s waning because people think they get free shit, and the Russians have been saying that says Nikita Khrushchev in the ’50s, that if we take over Hollywood, we take over the entertainment and take over the-

Jason Redman:
Education.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
We can beat the United States without firing a shot. And these mother fuckers have been raised thinking that someone owes them something.

Jason Redman:
Yep.

Robert O’Neill:
I get free education. I get free healthcare. I get blah, blah, fucking blah. It doesn’t work that way and you need to earn your keep. If something’s free, someone else is paying for it, and you fucking better step up and be part of the solution. And we’re losing it because of political correctness.

Jason Redman:
Yes.

Robert O’Neill:
The fucking left, and again they’ll say, “Well, you don’t believe in science.” “I don’t?” “I believe in two genders, that’s fucking science. Stop being an asshole.”

Ray Care:
Mm-hmm (affirmative). Dude, I love your Twitter. Your Twitter is hilarious.

Robert O’Neill:
Thank you.

Ray Care:
Yeah, yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
I’m really drunk.

Ray Care:
No, I love it man.

Jason Redman:
I love it.

Ray Care:
I love it.

Jason Redman:
All right speaking of Twitter, where can everybody find you bro? [crosstalk 00:01:06:24].

Robert O’Neill:
@mchooyah, M-C-H-O-O-Y-A-H.

Jason Redman:
And Hooyah is the- [crosstalk 00:09:31].

Robert O’Neill:
The reason I did that… Here’s a funny story. I had a buddy of mine from Red Team. He said, “Hey, there’s this new thing called Twitter.” I was still in the Navy. He goes, “There’s this new thing called Twitter, so just make up a fake name and we can just fuck with people.” So I put Mchooyah; the Irish hooyah because we say hooyah.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
Hooyah. My name leaked that night of killing Bin Laden. I woke up with 15,000 followers. I’m like, “God damn it.” [crosstalk 01:06:53].

Ray Care:
I still don’t understand… Twitter and me don’t get along. I just… Because-

Jason Redman:
Yeah, you’re not on it a lot. I’ve noticed that.

Ray Care:
Because-

Robert O’Neill:
[crosstalk 01:06:59] Ray. We got you there.

Jason Redman:
I-

Ray Care:
Every follower I have is because you said go follow me. Other than that I got nothing. Seriously.

Jason Redman:
I used to, I used to get into big Twitter wars. I’ve stopped doing it just because-

Robert O’Neill:
Oh no- [crosstalk 01:07:10].

Jason Redman:
… it’s such a waste. I would get sucked into the biggest wars man.

Robert O’Neill:
Just put funny shit out though.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
It’s ridiculous. Yeah.

Jason Redman:
Nah, I just focus on motivational shit now. I’m trying to motivate and inspire, push people. So all right, so that’s your handle. That’s what you’re doing. You’re out there. You’re making a difference. You’re motivating, inspiring. Is there anything else you want to leave and anything else you want to tell everybody out there?

Robert O’Neill:
No, just follow @mchooyah and get some good shit. Wake up in the morning, put both feet on the ground and if you don’t see your name of the obituaries, you love life. And it’s fucking-

Jason Redman:
It’s a good day. Yeah, love it.

Robert O’Neill:
[inaudible 01:07:47], robertjoneill.com.

Ray Care:
Literally, it’s my birthday. I posted the picture of me when I was in Vegas and they did this. I’ve literally had 50 fucking people write me today. Seriously. Go count on my thing.

Robert O’Neill:
Yeah.

Ray Care:
Asking where I got this shirt. So just what you need, more fucking people going your way. [crosstalk 00:11:04].

Robert O’Neill:
Hey, get in the fucking gym. Get some goddamn ink.

Ray Care:
Yeah.

Robert O’Neill:
Oh, can I tell you a funny ink story?

Ray Care:
Yes.

Jason Redman:
Yes.

Robert O’Neill:
Dude, you’re going to love this. So I got this tattoo here. And in Kanji it says American, but in Chinese it says rice country. No, get a load of it. It’s a racial slur for a white guy. I’m in New York and I’m getting this shit done and my doctor, Dr. Chang, I swear to God, he looks at me, he goes, “Hey Rob, that tattoo you got, what do you think it says?”.

Jason Redman:
That is awesome.

Robert O’Neill:
And he said, “It says rice country.”

Jason Redman:
Yes, that is so awesome.

Robert O’Neill:
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because [inaudible 00:11:48]. Let’s do this in person one of these days.

Ray Care:
Sounds good. We’d love to have you.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, for sure man. We’d love to have you back on. We can get deeper in.

Robert O’Neill:
All right man.

Jason Redman:
So all right, as we do with every show, we’re going to wrap it up with our two minutes of motivation. So we take the word of the day, killer, talking about killing it, and each of us gives a quick spiel and in 30-45 seconds and that wraps up the show. So it’s going to be mister, the birthday boy himself.

Ray Care:
Yeah, sounds good.

Jason Redman:
And then we’ll kick it over to you and you’ll get to close us out. All right.

Ray Care:
All right, so here we go. The word of the day was killer. Killer doesn’t have to be just a physical attribute. It could be physical, mental, emotional, social, spiritual. It means, kill everything you set your mind to. If you want something, ladies and gentlemen, fucking attack it. I’m all about old school attack. Never retract. I want you guys to kill everything in your life. Be the dominator of everything you do because you and you alone are the only thing that’s going to make you be a killer or be killed. Jay?

Jason Redman:
I love it man. Killer is such a powerful word. I mean, just in the essence, I mean we… The nature of human beings unfortunately there always will be war. There always is going to be evil. It doesn’t matter. I don’t care how a utopian society you think you’re going to create out there, all you idealistic people, which I’m sure we don’t have that many that listen to this show. But those that do man, I hate to tell you that there is evil in this world. I have seen it. Ray has seen it. Rob has seen it. And at some point there’s a group of people that there is nothing except for led medicine that’s going to fix them. You cannot persuade them. You cannot hug them. You cannot rationalize with them.

Jason Redman:
That being said, when you move past that, now we get into the killer mindset of driving forward in everything that you do. You should wake up every morning. You should be like, “How am I going to kill it with my family to take care of my family and push myself the best? How I’m going to kill it with my fitness? How am I going to kill it with my business? How I’m going to kill it so that by the time I get to the end of the day, I look myself in the mirror and say, “Dude, nice job. I’m ready for tomorrow.” And I send it off to the killer of the most wanted man in the world. Send it. Bring it home killer.

Robert O’Neill:
I have an instructor named Eshelman when I was in BUD/208. Right before we started Hell Week, he gave me some great advice for getting through Hell Week, but it turned out to be great advice for getting through life.

Jason Redman:
Hmm.

Robert O’Neill:
He said, “You’re about to go to war for the first time and the enemy is all your doubts, all your fears, and everyone you know back home that told you you weren’t good enough to do this. Keep your head down, keep moving forward no matter what and never quit and you’ll be fine.”

Jason Redman:
Yes. I love it man.

Ray Care:
Fuck yeah.

Jason Redman:
So I love it, man. Rob, thanks brother. It’s an honor to have you on.

Robert O’Neill:
Gentleman! [crosstalk 01:11:36].

Jason Redman:
We had a lot of fun.

Robert O’Neill:
Thank you for having me Ray. I’ll be in the studio the next time. I’m coming to Virginia Beach to see you mother fuckers.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, we’ll do shots and we’ll do shots.

Robert O’Neill:
Love you guys! Awesome!

Jason Redman:
That’s all right. This has been another episode of the Overcome and Conquer Show. An amazing episode. We’re killing it. I am Jason Overcome Redman.

Ray Care:
And I am Ray Cash Care.

Jason Redman:
And we are out!

Ray Care:
Boom!

Speaker 8:
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Ray Care:
The Overcome and Conquer Show is presented by The Project. The Project is a full immersion, 75 hour experience designed for men who know in their core they are not living up to their fullest potential. Rather than waking up every morning ready to dominate life, the mediocre man rolls out of bed and slides into the same unfulfilling routine they’ve unhappily been in for way too long. The project is for men that have lost their eternal flame and motivation to conquer. It is for men living an unfulfilling life that lacks the excitement and purpose. If this resonates with you and you want to learn more, we encourage you to apply today @www.mdkproject.com/ocshow. Boom!