Ray. Care:
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Ray. Care:
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Ray. Care:
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Ray. Care:
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Jason Redman:
Everybody wants to be on top of the hill. The problem nowadays is people want to get dropped off at the top of the hill in one day.

Speaker 3:
It’s that “I overcome” mindset that makes all the difference.

Jason Redman:
See the way we’re taught is you’re going to claw, you’re going to scratch, you’re going to bite, you’re going to dig, you’re going to do whatever it takes to get to the top of that mountain.

Speaker 3:
That unequivocally is how I have managed to keep myself moving forward and finding success.

Speaker 4:
Two SEALs, one mission. The Overcome and Conquer Show.

Jason Redman:
And welcome back to the Overcome and Conquer Show. It is crazy times out there. We are inundated with kung flu. So all across the nation, man, if you would listen to the national news, you would think that the world is going to end by, I don’t know, midnight at best. And that’s a positive prognosis. Some of the networks you listen to, we may last until 6:00 PM. But …

Ray. Care:
Dude, it’s ridiculous. I’m sorry. Literally, you know what me and the wife watched the other day? I know our very special guest is old enough to know. We actually pulled up John Travolta Boy in the Fucking Bubble, and we watched that. John Travolta literally had some crazy disease and he couldn’t be near anyone. And that’s what I feel like. I am losing my fucking mind because …

Ray. Care:
And the thing is is my wife has the audacity to say that I’m annoying her. She’s actually annoying me. Did you see the picture I posted recently of me wearing her little outfit? It was gorgeous.

Jason Redman:
Yes, you in her outfit. I got to tell you, though, when I looked at both of them side by side, your wife [crosstalk 00:03:38].

Ray. Care:
No comparison.

Jason Redman:
Your wife totally dominates that equation, bro. I’m sorry.

Ray. Care:
Shut your mouth. She’s 105 pounds. I’m 210, and I’m shredded somewhere.

Jason Redman:
Like a head of lettuce. But it is crazy times. It has been amazing. I’ve had people inundating me with, “How do we prepare for this? How do we deal with this?” How do we deal with that?” A lot of it comes down to mindset. It comes down to being positive. It comes down to being able to conquer your day, everything that we talk about in this show.

Jason Redman:
So we couldn’t think of a better guest to have on than an individual that this is what he does for a living, man. This guy’s pretty crazy, pretty incredible. I’m pretty honored to have him on, even though I will caveat. I will caveat. He was an Army guy.

Ray. Care:
And my wife fucking loves him. She likes [crosstalk 00:04:30].

Jason Redman:
He was an Army guy.

Ray. Care:
I know. She wants to come in and see him, and I told her no. She’s sitting at the door, fucking drooling right now. What the fuck?

Jason Redman:
But he’s got pretty good hair. So I’m thinking that if he had wanted to be a SEAL, he probably would’ve gone down that road.

Ray. Care:
I actually heard that he wanted to be a SEAL, but they were worried that he wouldn’t make it. So he went to the next best… And not only that, he could beat the living fuck to of me, so I got to watch what I say here. Nothing but respect, sir.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, but this individual, I got to tell you, guys, it’s an honor to have him on. He’s got a huge following. He’s got a lot of people out there that know he was Army Special Forces for years. Got out of the military. He is a phenomenal fighter, so he is a professional mixed martial arts fighter. He has been on numerous reality TV shows. He has a company Sheep Dog Response where he’s teaching others both how to train, how to build a mindset, how to proactively be ready for bad situations when they come, because I’ve got bad news, people: Bad situations come to all of us. Welcome to the world of the coronavirus.

Jason Redman:
But it is my honor and privilege to introduce Mr. Tim Kennedy to the Overcome and Conquer Show. Tim, welcome to the show, man.

Tim Kennedy:
Thanks for having me. And it’s awesome. You guys are rad.

Jason Redman:
Why, thank you, sir. So-

Ray. Care:
I’m not going to lie, you’re probably, of all the guests that we’ve had on, and we’ve even had Rob O’Neil on, I’m more jealous of you than most people, because … No, I’ll tell you exactly why, because you guys know. My show biz career compared to Tim’s is minute. But I’ve actually screened for a couple things that Tim got. We actually were in a show, not together, but we were on the same show, thank God, because my partner was old as fuck.

Ray. Care:
But-

Tim Kennedy:
Did carry him?

Jason Redman:
Was it that show on PornHub?

Ray. Care:
No, it wasn’t that show. It was called Ultimate Soldier Challenge. And actually, I remember, because we talked about this and I know, Tim, you know a fucking million people. We talked about it because your partner, I can’t remember his name, that you had on the show said, “Hey, Ray and Rob won. Ray maybe in his prime would have been something,” because remember at the time I was 40. I’m 48 now. And Rob was 50. And we won against a 23 and 28 year old. Thank God they had no tactical or technical skills whatsoever, or we would have lost.

Ray. Care:
But I remember your partner saying that and I was like, “You know what? I’m going to fucking say something back.” And then I was like, “Eh, maybe not because Tim might punch me in the face really hard.”

Ray. Care:
But no, it was fun. The premise was great. I just didn’t like the way that it was portrayed, I think, is what I want to say. But man, of all the things that I have applied or interviewed for, it’s always been like, “And the star of the show is Tim Kennedy.” So I love and hate you all at once, sir. So kidding.

Tim Kennedy:
Well, until you feel my knee pain, back pain, and a little bit of baldness and the overall ogre troll-like being that I am, then you’re like, “Okay. No, I don’t want that guy’s life.”

Ray. Care:
I don’t know. There are a lot of people out there that are like, “I will take the troll life.” Well, Tim, you are crushing it. You’re out there, you’re setting the example. I love everything you’re putting out in social media, always showing mindset, whether it’s in shooting, whether it’s in fighting, training, seeing you on there training with Dakota Meyer all the time.

Ray. Care:
Right now, we are in a little crazy time globally. So I’d love to just jump right into that, your initial thoughts on readiness in situations like this, because that’s exactly what you are about. It’s the premise of this show. We teach people how to overcome and conquer through mindset, through physicality. And it’s everything that you represent in your company. So what are your initial thoughts right now to everybody that’s out there that’s like, “Oh my god. The sky is falling?”

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. Well, first of all, sky’s not falling. There’s some people getting sick and we have to take care of the weak. That’s the point of being a protector and that’s the point of being a sheepdog. That’s the point of being a guardian, whatever the name you put to it. So it’s on us, the onus is on us, to make sure that we take care of these vulnerable segments of population.

Tim Kennedy:
But really, it’s a bad flu. So all of the crazy, the word that you used was crazy, so I’ll use it, all of the crazy has nothing to do with the sickness. It has to do with the people’s response to something that they don’t know. So you always fear the unknown.

Tim Kennedy:
And because people are afraid, they do very irrational things. They buy toilet paper in the hundreds. They go and they buy all of the eggs and all of the meat and all of the milk, all canned foods that they’ll never eat and they’ll end up throwing away in like two years because it’s been filling up their pantry.

Tim Kennedy:
All the people we’ve trained in the past 12 months, we’ve trained about 2,000 people. And all of the information and feedback that we’ve gotten in the past few weeks is we are so good. People that have prepared, people that have taken … Because being a responsible gun owner, it’s not like, “Okay. I’ve got a gun and I’m tough.” You put yourself into a new life, and that life is training, it’s diets, it’s mental toughness.

Tim Kennedy:
And it’s a very rewarding life, but a lot of people, I think up to about two weeks ago, they thought this little segment of society was crazy. And now, that little of segment of society, the people that were prepared, the people that have trained, the people that have guns, the people that maybe have a little extra food stored away, everybody’s coming to us being like, “Well, what am I supposed to do?” And I was like, “Well, join the tribe because now you just got to go do some more work.”

Ray. Care:
It’s funny you say that because I got back from doing The Project with Bedros and them and the epidemic kick. I flew back, there was a guy in a complete contamination suit at the airport. I’m dying. I was taking pictures with him, putting my arms around him.

Ray. Care:
And when I got home, I noticed everything was crazy. So I like to go out and recon things and see what’s going on, but I’m always ready for the fight. So I go to the local Walmart. Or, no. Excuse me. The Harris Teeter. And it was empty. And people were fighting over toilet paper and fighting over wipes and fighting over this.

Ray. Care:
And I went in there and I did a live and I grabbed a Slim Jim and I said, “End of the world is coming. This is all I need.” And people wrote, “Why?” And I said, “Because, guys, I’m already prepped. I already planned for discomfort.” And that’s, I think, the difference with a lot of people today is they’re so, I hate to use the word entitled, but people are pussies.

Ray. Care:
I’m not going to lie. I love this social distancing. I love it. Like you said, I asked you before this, “What has changed since you started this?” Nothing. I’ll tell you what’s changed with me. I have more time to do things with my family. Soon as I get off this podcast with you, I’m taking my dog and my girls for a walk. We do everything as a family. We went out and bought 1,000-piece puzzle because you can’t find toilet paper, sanitizer, but you can find puzzles all over the place. So we’re going to put a puzzle together.

Ray. Care:
If we could take away cell phones and go back to the rotary phone, we’re back to when we were kids and I’m happy. I swear. People laugh and they’re like, “You’re sadistic.” I’m not. I’m exercising more, my wife is, my daughter is. Now, the school thing sucks, but we’re just home schooling her with the private school that she goes to. Nothing has changed except that probably in two months I’m not going to be able to wipe my ass with toilet paper. That’s it.

Tim Kennedy:
No, you will be because it’s manufactured here and there’s going to be … everybody’s going to stockpile so much. You can just go to Craigslist and buy a truckload of it for about 50 cents.

Jason Redman:
This is the one part of this thing that I don’t understand. Nowhere is there any report out there that I have found, anywhere on the internet, in any country that basically says, “Hey. Coronavirus causes uncontrollable, explosive diarrhea, like gallons of it. You will probably not survive if you are not able to wipe yourself clean, because all you’re ever going to do is live on a toilet.” Nowhere does it say this.

Jason Redman:
So I don’t understand this urgency to buy up all the paper products in every store. And it’s happening here. We have not been able to buy toilet paper in, I don’t know, three weeks.

Tim Kennedy:
The origin of it’s really simple. In Australia, they were told that the production of toilet paper, 100% of it, came from China. So when China started collapsing on itself with the coronavirus, all of Australia thought that they were going to run out of toilet paper because that’s where it was manufactured.

Tim Kennedy:
So there was a run on toilet paper in Australia. People videoed this and live streamed it, and then they spoke English. And Americans watched this and they’re like, “Oh no. They’re going to go get toilet paper. That means that we’re going to need toilet paper.” Then 90% of our toilet paper is made in the United States. Charmin, Cottonelle, Angel Soft, that’s all made here. So [crosstalk 00:13:53].

Jason Redman:
They’re the only companies that are going to show profits out of all of this.

Ray. Care:
Damn right.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. Well, and then every firearms manufacturer and every single ammo manufacturer because they’re killing it.

Ray. Care:
Have you seen the price yet? Have you seen the prices? Wow. You know what’s funny, is I could look at the three of us on this, because we can’t be in the same room right now, and I’ve got four platoons. How many platoons do you have, Tim?

Tim Kennedy:
How many-

Ray. Care:
How many deployments have you done?

Tim Kennedy:
Oh.

Ray. Care:
A bunch. Jason’s got a bunch. How many [crosstalk 00:14:26]?

Tim Kennedy:
A couple dozens.

Ray. Care:
Yeah. How many times, not counting my other time of other stuff I did, have you ever been on patrol and just called to all halt? With LT, I’ve done it, and just went off into the woods, took a shit, wiped your ass with a leaf, got right back in patrol.

Ray. Care:
I told my wife, I’m like, “I’ve literally …” My backyard is the woods. I’ve done it three times just for shits and giggles. And every time I come back, she just looks at me and goes, “You’re disgusting.” I’m like, “I am saving you toilet paper.” And then she goes, “Wash your hands. I love you.” That’s what I do and that’s what I love about this. I literally walk 10 feet in my backyard, I take a deuce. I love it.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. It’s easy. Yeah, irrational fear.

Ray. Care:
Hard to come back from that.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, there’s so much out there. There’s so many people that just don’t know what to do, which is really … I think we want to get into that later, Tim, because it is the idea, the proactive verse, the reactive mindset. All that comes down to … it comes down to preparation, it comes to planning, and it comes down to a part of the word that you gave us that’s your word of the day. What defines Tim Kennedy?

Jason Redman:
And as everybody knows on the Overcome and Conquer Show, we asks every single guest, “What defines you?” And Tim didn’t even hesitate. He was like, “This is my word.”

Jason Redman:
So Ray, do you want to give Tim’s word? And let’s give the definition. And then, Tim, we’ll let you tell us why you feel that that word describes you and how that word has made such a difference, because I definitely think that that word leads up to you and anybody else being prepared for anything that’s coming.

Ray. Care:
So the word of the day, correct me if I’m wrong, was outwork. So all I do, Tim, is I look it up. I’m going to tell you exactly what it says, and then, like we talked about before, tell us how it resonates and what it means to you.

Ray. Care:
So outwork, work harder, faster, or longer than someone or anyone else. I like it.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah.

Ray. Care:
So what does that mean to you?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. That definition couldn’t be more precise. I think we’ve kicked around some words and entitlement. You want to talk about being able to succeed in the 21st century, outwork them. I have the hardest time getting somebody just to show up on time, not even work hard. I mean just show up on time.

Tim Kennedy:
I was raised in an era, especially military, where right place, right time, right uniform, and right level of motivation. So if you get there, you got all of the equipment you need, your uniform, you’re at the right place at the right time to do the work, motivated to do the work, you’re ready to go, whatever that was.

Tim Kennedy:
So I actually get a ton of hate from social media stuff where people are like, “Special Forces, sniper, Ranger, Green Beret, UFC fighter, television entrepreneur,” and they say it in this mean, disingenuous spirit. But in truth, I’m like, “Yeah, man. I am all of those things. And I promise, if you came into my world, you couldn’t hang for a day.” You see what time [inaudible 00:17:32] gets up? I don’t post a picture of it, but you know I’ve been working. I literally today will have shot, put up a play scape for my five year-old because it’s his birthday [crosstalk 00:17:41].

Ray. Care:
Happy birthday.

Tim Kennedy:
I know. He’s so amazing. Practice lacrosse with him, had a badass workout, going to be harvesting a little bit of meat, building a chicken coop, and then I have some family coming in today to celebrate my son’s birthday. So that’s by noon.

Ray. Care:
I love it. So-

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah.

Ray. Care:
So your mentality is just, “Look, I want to outwork the worker.” So let’s take away all the titles. Let’s take away sniper, Green Beret, MMA fighter, TV star, and the list goes fucking on and on.

Ray. Care:
So where did Tim Kennedy come from and where did he get this lifestyle mentality/mindset? Because this isn’t just a work ethic. This is a lifestyle mindset mentality. Where did it come from, Tim?

Tim Kennedy:
Well, it was learned. I had an amazing family with an incredibly successful father and incredibly successful brother, sister, uncles. If you look in my resume, I’m overshadowed by all of my family’s resumes where you see NCAA recorder holder this, Olympian that, Hall of Fame this. So I’m really the short, hairy idiot of the family when it comes to things.

Tim Kennedy:
If you take away all of those titles, but then you picked any one thing, just you picked it out of a hat, I promise I will be good at it because I will work my ass off at it until I am ultimately successful at it. Look at my hands right now. This is the same that they are … Here, I’ll just pull this gross callus up and eat that.

Ray. Care:
Not [crosstalk 00:19:20].

Tim Kennedy:
Hold on a sec.

Jason Redman:
Don’t want it to go to waste [crosstalk 00:19:24].

Tim Kennedy:
No, you don’t. That’s what you want [crosstalk 00:19:25].

Ray. Care:
So wait a minute, Tim. You mean you didn’t just become successful overnight? Wait a minute, Tim. You mean you didn’t just become an MMA fighter and fight Bisping overnight? You didn’t? Because, yeah, I follow you. You didn’t get all this stardom and all this glory and all these awards that you’ve gotten just overnight?

Ray. Care:
Because, see, that’s what people don’t seem to fucking understand. They think that people that achieve greatness, it’s almost like they win the lottery. And I tell people, “Man, what you don’t see is the real story.” See, I would love [crosstalk 00:19:58].

Jason Redman:
The grind.

Ray. Care:
The grind. I would love to hear, if we had time, the story of how you became an MMA fighter, the story of how you became this. And again, it all stems to you outworked everybody. But I’m here to tell you guys, and I’m looking at the camera right now, motherfuckers, if you think you’re going to get to the level that Tim’s at or Jason’s at by just getting up and putting in the minimal time, time plus effort equals results, you’re going to get nowhere fast. You have got to literally reverse engineer how things work.

Ray. Care:
And how you do that? By outworking the motherfuckers that work hard. I love it, man. I love your thought process on it and just [crosstalk 00:20:37].

Tim Kennedy:
I’m not talented. You look at guys like John Jones and he’s going through a tough time today. He got arrested again for something else. If I had this much John Jones talents, I wouldn’t have fought for two world titles. I would still be the world champion.

Tim Kennedy:
So I had to make up for the lack of talent by outworking people. While I have a bunch of degrees now, I’m not a smart dude. But if I’m going to be working in something, I’m going to learn everything I possibly can about that thing. While I might not have the highest IQ in the room, but I promise you I will know more than everyone in the room because I will have prepared for it.

Ray. Care:
Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
And that’s the way I take it to everything.

Ray. Care:
Excuse me. I love it.

Jason Redman:
Tim, so in your family, I’m just wondering, as you grew up, where are you in the pecking order?

Tim Kennedy:
I’m the runt retard with the short arm that has an eye that’s looking the wrong way all the time. I’m the middle child.

Jason Redman:
Okay.

Ray. Care:
Middle child. Okay.

Tim Kennedy:
Middle child of-

Jason Redman:
How many?

Tim Kennedy:
Older brother, younger sister.

Jason Redman:
Okay. So how much older is your older brother? And what did he go on to do? Was he the NCAA champion?

Tim Kennedy:
So my brother Nick, he is another can do whatever he wants to do type guy. He’s a SWAT EOD detective sergeant now at Murray County Sheriff’s Department. Well, no. I think he’s the detective … They go special teams [crosstalk 00:22:27].

Jason Redman:
Oh yeah.

Ray. Care:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
Let me just tell you a story about my brother. I have a nephew with Down Syndrome, Tanner, and that little dude is one of the toughest guys on the planet. When Tanner was born, the doctors were like, “Hey, something’s wrong,” right? “He’s not breathing right. His musculature and his crying isn’t the way that it’s supposed to be. We don’t know what’s wrong, but we’re going to start digging in to find out what’s wrong with your son.”

Tim Kennedy:
And everybody’s freaking out. My nephew, he’s just struggling to breathe and to survive. And my brother is just the rock for the family. It’s his son that’s on the lam right now. His son is the one that’s just fighting for life. And the doctors finally come in and they’re like, “Hey, we’re going to have to do surgery on your infant right now, your brand new son. And he has Down Syndrome. We don’t know to what degree that he’s going to be impaired.”

Tim Kennedy:
And my brother sits there for like two seconds. Like me, my mind is like, “Wait. We’re not going to have another Olympian? We’re not going to have another NCAA record holder? We’re not going to have another guy that’s going to MIT or going to Berkeley Law?” This is what’s going through my mind because I’m a piece of shit. And my brother just looks at the doctor and he’s like, “Man, so I’m going to have a fishing buddy for the rest of my life.”

Ray. Care:
Wow.

Tim Kennedy:
Immediately.

Ray. Care:
That’s awesome.

Jason Redman:
Yeah. Wow.

Tim Kennedy:
And that’s my brother in everything that he’s ever done and just pivot in a heartbeat to maximize potential wherever we are and whatever he’s doing.

Ray. Care:
Perspective.

Tim Kennedy:
My dad … Yeah, perspective is right. My dad stole a plane full of cocaine from Pablo Escobar. He was the Olympic level water polo player that played for Long Beach State, held a bunch of records. That’s my dad.

Tim Kennedy:
So I came from a high functioning family that you will [crosstalk 00:24:35].

Jason Redman:
Hang on. We got to go back to that comment. Now, I’m assuming he worked for some federal agency, or was he just wandering around Colombia [crosstalk 00:24:41] and he’s like, “You know-

Ray. Care:
Pablo.

Jason Redman:
“There is Pablo’s plane, and it’s full of … it looks like a white Christmas inside of it. I’m going to help myself?” So I think you got to give us a little more backstory on your dad [crosstalk 00:24:57].

Tim Kennedy:
We like that Medellin. [crosstalk 00:25:00].

Jason Redman:
So now we’re getting down to the core of how you’re able to outwork everybody. The family legacy that’s been passed on over all these years. Oh man. No, man. That’s awesome. Obviously, your brother … And there’s no doubt, families … I try to talk to people about raising their kids. And Tim, you’re a dad, Ray’s a dad, producer Ryan is a dad. And a lot of people ask questions about raising your kids. And at the end of the day, it comes down to, whether it’s raising a family, whether it’s running a company, whether it’s running a platoon, you’ve got to lead and they’re going to follow your example. It all comes down to leadership by example. That’s 70% of it.

Jason Redman:
And that feeds into your family. Your family helped build that mindset, which is awesome. Your brother summarized it in that statement. So as you went further on into your career, you made that decision to join the Army, was there a moment … Obviously, we learn from our families and we’re forged into who were are, but then it’s through the experiences, the trials and tribulations that we go through when we start to grow a little bit ourselves. And this is where Tim Kennedy started to become Tim Kennedy, who you are now. Do you remember any specific moments?

Jason Redman:
I think back, I have one specific moment in SEAL training where I was like, “Dude, if you quit, you’re done. You fail.” And it was that thought, it was that moment where I was like, “Oh, this is the secret sauce. You just don’t quit no matter how bad this gets.”

Jason Redman:
Were there any moments in your career that started to play in where you can think back and go, “Oh yeah. This was the moment where I knew that, by driving forward and by just grinding through and outworking everybody, this is where I was going to set who I was?”

Tim Kennedy:
It was actually all the way, two and half years into Special Operations. It was in my first combat deployment to Iraq. And we lost one of our birds and we had to reorganize our load plan. So I was the least experienced guy on the team, so they pushed me to the QRF. And I got so mad at my team sergeant. I was like, “I’m the fastest. I’m the strongest. I work the hardest. I’m the best shooter on the team,” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all the things of why I should have a seat on this helicopter and you should kick one of these senior dudes off the bird and make him go on QRF.

Tim Kennedy:
And they go out, they get into it. I sit there and I listen to it on the radio, and they come home. And when they come back, I bitch to my team sergeant, “Everything would have been easier if I was there.” And he’s like, “Go get your boxing gloves. Meet us down in the team tent.” So I was like, “Oh, hell yeah. I’m about to straighten you guys out and you’re going to remember me after this night as to why I’m an asset in so many ways.”

Tim Kennedy:
And the whole team’s waiting for me in the tent and they all have their gloves on. And so I start fighting one of them and then two of them and then three of them. And about an hour later, I scuffed up about six of them and there’s still six dudes left to [crosstalk 00:28:27] beat the shit out of me. Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
And Shane was a Golden Glove boxer and he was the tenth guy that I got to. And they wanted me to quit. And I didn’t deserve to be there. I didn’t deserve to be on that team. I didn’t. An entitled little piece of shit. And they didn’t want to hurt me. They wanted me to ask myself what I would do to stay on that team. And ultimately, I had to fight as long as I could and take the biggest ass beating I’ve ever gotten, and you’ve seen me get some ass beatings live on TV, just so I could stay on that team.

Jason Redman:
How did those ass beatings on TV that we’ve seen compare to the ass beating that you took that day? Can I ask that?

Tim Kennedy:
No. From anytime you’ve ever seen me fight and lose in the UFC or Strike Force, which was rare, even in those fights that I lost, that would be a walk in the park compared to what happened in that team tent.

Jason Redman:
Wow.

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Ray. Care:
Wow.

Jason Redman:
Yeah, but that’s one of those moments, man. And I love the fact that’s such a great story about you talk about guys that are experienced and have been around and you are the harder, stronger, young buck that’s come into this, bunch of combat … these combat experienced dudes, and they were like, “We’re going to give this guy an opportunity to grow, but we’re going to do it in the way that we do it, which is it’s through a little bit of tough love.”

Tim Kennedy:
Right.

Jason Redman:
And I think there’s so many people out there, we’re losing that mindset here in America. We’ve talked about it. So many people, Ray talked about it at the beginning, that there are a lot of people that look at individuals who have achieved a high level and they think, “Oh, I want to be Tim Kennedy. So if I take some MMA classes and I learn how to shoot a little bit, maybe I go to the gym a few times a week, why am I not at this level?”

Jason Redman:
Well, you’re talking years and years and years and even one pivotal night where you got your ass kicked by an A team that built you into who you are. And these are the cumulative moments that I think people just don’t understand. It takes years to build into that. So that’s an awesome story.

Jason Redman:
So what led you … Obviously, you had your combat time. You were already starting to fight. What led you down the road into the MMA? What lit that spark?

Tim Kennedy:
I think my dad knew early that if he didn’t get me into a pugilistic type activity that I would end up in prison. So I tried a handful, a myriad of martial arts growing up, Tae Kwon Do, karate, which led me to Hawaiian Kenpo, where Chuck Liddel came from. And he was one of my training partners.

Tim Kennedy:
And I fell in love with jujitsu [crosstalk 00:32:25].

Jason Redman:
Chuck seems like a pretty cool dude.

Ray. Care:
Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah, unless he hits you. He hits pretty hard.

Jason Redman:
Well, aside from that. He seems like a pretty cool dude to be on his side, not on the receiving end of those big meat hooks.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. Yeah. He’s definitely fun to hang out with, but most of our hanging out involved punching each other. And he would get the better end of that deal. Yeah.

Ray. Care:
I love it.

Jason Redman:
So bottom line, from an early age, you’ve been a squared away, motivated kid, badass, SF. You’ve done it all. So let’s shift focus. What made you make the transition from everything that you’ve done to what you’re doing now with Sheepdog? Can you talk about that and what made you want to create that company and what your vision was with that?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. So I love being in the Green Berets. I got back from a deployment two weeks ago, and I’m taking my own Special Forces ODA and I’m really proud to move into that master sergeant/team sergeant role. It’s going to be another opportunity for me to be humiliated and humbled.

Tim Kennedy:
But a Green Beret first and foremost is a trainer, right? Yeah, we’re great snipers. Yes, we’re great DA door kickers. Yes, we can speak the language and we can work sources. But the reason that we can do all of those things is because you can take a few of us and you could put us into a place and we can train an entire army to go and fight with us, side by side, so that we can advise and so we can assist and so we can accompany them into war.

Tim Kennedy:
And we have to get them up to a level that they can fight with us. That’s a weird thing, right? We’re not going to go do a J set where I’m going to go train these guys in how to do something and then I’m going to leave them and I’m going to come back. That’s not how it works with a Green Beret. We’re going to go there, we’re going to train them, and then we’re going to go and we’re going to go get in fights and we’re going to go to war with them.

Tim Kennedy:
And while I was deployed a few different times, shootings were happening in the United States. You’re seeing the shooting in Florida. You’re seeing the shooting in San Bernardino. You’re seeing the Columbine shooting. You’re seeing all of these active shooter instances happening. And would you guys have liked to have been in that movie theater when that guy walked in?

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Ray. Care:
Hell yeah.

Jason Redman:
If I was armed, absolutely.

Tim Kennedy:
For sure, right? Would you have liked to been in the parking lot of one of those elementary schools when one of those guys tried to walk in?

Jason Redman:
Absolutely.

Ray. Care:
Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
Absolutely. What are the odds of one of the three of us being there?

Ray. Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
Slim.

Ray. Care:
Slim.

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. Slim to none. We’re talking one in a tens of millions, right? You guys are rare things. The Jeff Gonzaleses, the Westwood Locks, the Pat Macmanures. They’re amazing dudes, but there’s just not a lot of you guys.

Tim Kennedy:
So while I think I’m okay at a lot of things, I know I’m good at training people. So I thought, “Well, what if I can be a force multiplier? What if I can start training thousands and thousands and hopefully tens of thousands of people? And it’s not going to be a Tim Kennedy that’s going to be sitting in a movie theater or that’s going to be sitting at a Christmas party when somebody walks in because they don’t like the religion, they’re going to shoot everybody in it. But somebody that I train could be there.”

Tim Kennedy:
And statistically, we’re at a point now where, now, statistically there’s going to be one of my students there. And I’ll tell you what. You don’t want to get in a gun fight with one of my students. And that was the origin and that was the genesis of this whole entire … And we don’t want it to be a company. We want it to be a movement. And I don’t want it to be mine. I want it to be something that’s way bigger than mine. I want it to be every single [inaudible 00:36:25] instructor out there. I want them to subscribe to this tribe of being a force multiplier, that we will make somebody be at that next school. So when that asshole walks in there and he thinks, “Hey, I’m going to break the record of how many kids I could shoot,” guess what? You don’t make it out of your fucking car because you’re dead in the parking lot.

Ray. Care:
See, I love that, Tim. I’m sorry, Jay. Sorry. I didn’t mean to cut you off.

Jason Redman:
No, go ahead.

Ray. Care:
Because my definition of success, success is not a monetary standpoint. My definition of success is helping others help themselves. And literally, what you just fucking said, I love it. I just got chills when you said that, because that’s what I always worry about. I train my wife. I don’t train at your level, but my daughter’s 11. She can handle herself around different platforms.

Ray. Care:
I got to watch how I say that, but like I said, I refuse to be a fucking statistic and I refuse for my family to be a statistic. And I love what you’re doing because you’re helping great people be able to defend themselves and, yeah, that’s great. So that’s what I love about you, is you are successful because you’re doing what you love and you’re helping others help themselves. Love it, Tim.

Jason Redman:
Tim, there were two questions here that popped out of that. One, I’ll keep for right now, and that where do people go if they want to learn more about Sheepdog Response? Obviously, there’s a lot of people, especially right now. After this coronavirus thing is done, old kung flu gets kicked, you’re going to see a lot of people that realized they were unprepared in so many different ways. Not only were they unprepared in mindset, proactively, they were unprepared in their life, and I think they’re seeing those of us that are out there who basically are …

Jason Redman:
I know I’ve said it to several friends. I’ve sent pictures, I think, to these guys. I did it when all this started to go down. Just like everybody, I went through, checked all my go bags that were ready, all my weapons around the house, all my ammo, cleaned everything, restocked magazines, just ready to go in case, God knows, anything happens. And I know there’s a lot of people out there that are going to be hungry for that. They’re like, “I need to understand how to do this.”

Jason Redman:
So where do they go to get training from you? I believe you got some online courses even, don’t you?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. Right now, people are stuck at home. I personally want to be with people and I can help them through the journey. So coming to a physical course, being on the range, getting sand and dirt in your eyes and your fingers and hands a little bit bloody and a little bit dirty, you’re a little bit tired, you had to fight for five hours, and you show up at the range. Now, you got to shoot for six hours and Tim didn’t give you a long enough lunch break. That’s an important thing because it conditions this mental toughness.

Tim Kennedy:
While you’re virtually training right now, if you go to Sheepdog Response, I got a bunch of virtual products that are available. You can work out with me. I’m doing live streams. I’m posting on Zoom stuff, live dry fire drills, live workouts, live how to clean an animal, how to purify water, how to make a hand sanitizer, very basic stuff to us, but maybe alien to some people.

Tim Kennedy:
So go to Sheepdog Response. You can look at those virtual trainings, but go to real training. As soon as this is done, as soon as you can get out, find some people. And there’s a lot of charlatans out there. There’s a lot of people that are putting out bad information. Try and find legitimate guys that are masters of their craft, and you can see it. It oozes out of them because they love what they do so much. Find those guys. If there’s a braggadocios dude that’s like, “Let me tell you about how fast I am,” no, no. Go find a dude that just will pour his soul out for you so you can get better.

Ray. Care:
Love it.

Jason Redman:
That’s awesome. Where do they go? Where’s your website that they can learn more about you, look at your courses, things like that, if they want to learn more about Mr. Tim Kennedy himself?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. The company is SheepdogResponse.com. I, in all the social platforms, I’m TimKennedyMMA. That’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. But the company Sheepdog Response, that’s my company. All the dudes are Green Berets, obviously which are way better than Navy SEALS, and then we have a whole bunch [crosstalk 00:40:55].

Ray. Care:
Hold on. I’m going to cut you off there, Mr. Kennedy. I notice that you have 735,000 followers. I was Buzz class 200. Do you know that? Did you know that? Of course you didn’t know that.

Tim Kennedy:
That’s [crosstalk 00:41:09].

Ray. Care:
But you know that [crosstalk 00:41:10].

Jason Redman:
Now, I know that because I happened to be in Ray’s boat crew when we went through hell week. So-

Tim Kennedy:
What?

Jason Redman:
Yeah. That’s it.

Ray. Care:
So let me blow your mind for a second. This is what Navy SEALS do. Okay. Let me make sure I said, “Blows your mind.” I said that, okay?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah. So if I followed you, you would be the 200th person that I followed, which would coincide with the class number that you were.

Ray. Care:
You know what? I hate you almost as much as I hate Bert Kouns, because you’re smart and I don’t like that. I don’t like that about you, Tim Kennedy.

Ray. Care:
No, I love it. I love what you’re doing. And you do remind me of Bert Kouns. But now, here’s a question I have. Do you have any questions for us? Because you have two live Navy SEALS with great hair, one’s been shot eight times.

Jason Redman:
Devastatingly handsome.

Ray. Care:
One did a show with you, and I don’t know how it would have went if we went toe to toe. As long as there’s no combat, I would have tried. I would have tried. But do you have any questions for us? Because you’ve got us live. Is there anything? No?

Tim Kennedy:
Didn’t you see me shoot, though, as you’re like … One of my favorite things is like, “Oh, man [crosstalk 00:42:23].”

Ray. Care:
Oh God. Did you see how bad I shot? Okay. You did. Okay. I know where you’re getting to, but this is what you need to understand about the show real quick, okay? Bert and them ripped me apart.

Ray. Care:
So when we actually did the show, remember, there was the kill house scene before it. I kept beating the Russian. Remember we were using the sim?

Tim Kennedy:
Yeah.

Ray. Care:
And every time I’d start hitting him, he would yell something in Russian and put his gun down. So Rob Roy and the one guy went, Sunny, went one time and they tied. Me and the other guy, this is a true story, we went four times and I kept beating him. And finally, Mack said, “Okay,” because he kept stopping. And Mack said, “Stop.” And he came out, and you remember Mack, Mack would just lay it out there. And Mack said, “Listen, here’s the deal, Cash.” He goes, “It’s one to zero instead of all these one times you’ve won. If you beat him one more time, you win.”

Ray. Care:
I swear to God, “If not, then it’s a tie and you have a break off.” And this is what I did. I looked right at Mack, I said, “Fuck this guy. He’s a Russian. He doesn’t know his ass from his elbow in kill house. Zero to zero. Let’s go again,” right?

Ray. Care:
And Rob Roy was like … I heard Rob was cussing me out in the background. And I barely beat the guy. But when that was over with, true story, and I’m not making anything up, we had to run to the next event before the low level light hit in and we had to start shooting. So Rob Roy, with all of his wisdom, goes, “Hey, listen, guys. We’ll take three shots. We’ll be good.”

Ray. Care:
So we took three shots and that whole time I literally am loaded, like 12 magazines. I didn’t hit jack shit. So what I’m doing right now is making an excuse why I suck so bad. Yes, I did see you shoot. You’re awesome, brother. Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
Thanks.

Jason Redman:
Tim, I want to go back to a statement you made earlier. It was a question that I had because I think it’s going to resonate. There’s a lot of obvious younger listeners to our show saying they’re going to tune into because it’s the young men that are out there that aspire to a Special Operations career. They follow you, they follow Ray, they follow me. You made a statement I thought was a very telling statement on mindset and understanding where we are as leaders, and you said stepping into this role as a master sergeant in A team and you’re looking forward to being both humiliated and humbled.

Jason Redman:
And I guarantee there’s a lot of young men out there that are scratching their head right now going, “Why would you say that? That doesn’t make sense. You’re Tim Kennedy.” I know why you said it and it’s a great appreciation for what leadership is as we move higher up in the levels. Can you talk to that for a few minutes? What does it mean to be a leader, and especially as you step up, especially when you are leading individuals in combat, how we must humble ourselves and understand all that? Can you talk to that for a few minutes?

Tim Kennedy:
I think transparency and vulnerability are things that you don’t expect to see in this community. But in truth, when guys are so exposed and so raw, right, we’re together for six months in the shit, covered in dirt, we haven’t had a real meal or a hot shower in months. You want to talk about vulnerable and transparent? In those moments, you’re going to really see who a person is.

Tim Kennedy:
When I say humbled and humiliated, I hope that there’s going to be 11 kids on there that are going to try every single day to be faster than me, that will try every single day to shoot better than me and more accurate than me, that they’re going to try and beat me in the shoot house. Whatever we’re doing, I want them to put the effort in to be able to beat me. And I promise, it’s not going to be easy and I’m going to be so pissed if, and I doubt they ever will, beat me. But I will be so happy, not in front of you, but as soon as I get back. I will be like, “Hell yes,” because I’ve seen the realized potential of every single one of those fellow Green Berets that is finally meeting their potential. They’re coming to that moment where we can go and we go to war together and I know they’re going to have my back.

Tim Kennedy:
So a leader leads from the front, right? He can’t fake it, he can’t pretend it. There’s not a helicopter that’s going to take him up to the top of the mountain. He had to have earned his way to get there. And if he had gotten there any other way, he will be unprepared for what is going to be required of him in those moments.

Tim Kennedy:
I promise you, I did my work to get to those mountains. And when you’re there on top of that mountain with me and you’re like … just crushed me in everything, I will be rejoicing inside while I kick your dick in.

Ray. Care:
Wow.

Jason Redman:
I think there’s a lot of people out there that don’t understand that. They’ve never been in a leadership role. And I’ll be honest, it took me many years to figure that out before I learned that the transparency and the humility plays such a big part and that you’re going to build more credibility with your team in those roles. And I just thought that was such a powerful statement you made and we blasted right by it. So thanks for chiming in on that, man. You were trying to step up the game with the Green Berets over the SEALS here. I got to give it to you there. So-

Tim Kennedy:
Inch by inch, we’ll get there eventually.

Jason Redman:
Inch by [crosstalk 00:47:41].

Ray. Care:
Yeah, yeah.

Jason Redman:
So hey, Tim. I know we can talk about this, we have like a thousand questions we have here we want to ask you, but we got to watch time and we know that your time’s very valuable. So as we start coming to a close, we always like to ask this question, and this is probably where we want you to just lay it all out on the line. And here’s the question.

Jason Redman:
If you could give people three pieces of advice in all your life lessons or anything that you wanted to put out, what would it be?

Tim Kennedy:
First is that everything that you want, everything, wealth, success, safety, security, food, all of that can only be found on the far side of hard work. Freedom is not free. The only place that you can get freedom from is to be a hard worker.

Tim Kennedy:
You don’t think that our Founding Fathers worked their ass off for it? You don’t think that World War I and World War II were hard? They were. Vietnam, Korea, the first Desert Storm, second Desert Storm, Afghanistan, every single one of those times, that was work.

Tim Kennedy:
So everything that you want and everything that you take for granted right now was earned via hard work.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
So that’s my first advice, is believe that everything that you want is on the far side of hard work.

Tim Kennedy:
Second, I think people look at hard work and how much it takes. We talk about getting to the top of this mountain and the success and this lifestyle. If you’re going to be carrying a gun, you have to be responsible, you have to train, you have to do work, you have to be mentally tough, you have to be physically strong. And that sounds like a lot of stuff, but I’m going to go back to belief. And you’re going to have to believe me a little bit on this. It is the most rewarding and freedom-creating life that you could ever imagine wanting.

Tim Kennedy:
You don’t know what it’s like right now. You see, “Oh, is Tim super disciplined about his diet? Does he not drink? Is he just working all the time?” The food tastes better, the women taste sweeter, the wine is more delicious, the coffee is more fantastic, successes are that much more incredible because you earned them and the process of giving them was that.

Tim Kennedy:
So the second thing is believe that it is all worth it, because it is.

Tim Kennedy:
And then third and finally is, and this is … You have to love the contrast. So in my life, I’ve been away for six months, a year in war zones and not getting hot showers, not getting real food, not getting to smell what a woman smells like after she’s washed her hair, how soft your kids’ skin feels when they give you a kiss on your cheek right here. Those are all things that you can’t appreciate unless you’ve suffered.

Tim Kennedy:
And you take all of these other things for granted. And it’s that word entitlement. And the third thing is I’m going to caution you to entitlement, because if you are entitled, you’re going to miss out on the sweetness and how just incredibly delicious life can be, because you’re just going to live in lukewarm. And lukewarm sucks. If you experience pain and suffering and then you don’t have to suffer and you get to taste the delicious sweetness of how rewarding life can be. But you would take this for granted if you didn’t know what that felt like.

Jason Redman:
Yeah.

Tim Kennedy:
So get out of lukewarm, get out of comfortable, find pain, find suffering. Then, you can enjoy sweetness.

Jason Redman:
Dude.

Ray. Care:
Love it.

Jason Redman:
Awesome.

Ray. Care:
Wow.

Jason Redman:
Awesome.

Ray. Care:
I took notes. I took notes. I actually took notes on your three. I don’t do that often, and I did because I knew they were going to be powerful.

Jason Redman:
You busted out your crayon?

Ray. Care:
Fuck you, and all of you, because you’re all laughing at me. I’m being serious. No. And what I love about it, Tim, is the passion that flows out when you say it. You’re not just saying it, man. You wholeheartedly [crosstalk 00:51:54].

Tim Kennedy:
I live it, man. I live it.

Ray. Care:
Well, yeah. I love it. I love it. Great stuff.

Jason Redman:
All right, man. Well, listen. This has been an amazing episode. I can’t think of a better way to wrap up the show than those three pieces of advice from [crosstalk 00:52:05] to live your life. Get out there.

Jason Redman:
I just thought about it, Tim, when you were talking about the hard work, you were talking about the belief, and you were talking about reducing the entitlements. I’ll bring the show back to the beginning. Talking about this whole kung flu, this global pandemic thing, what are the things that, when you talked about in those three, what it gives you is it gives you piece of mind because you know you’re ready. That’s one of things.

Jason Redman:
Somebody said something to me about food and toilet paper and all of those things. And I told them, I said, “You know what? It doesn’t really matter to me because I know I’ll be okay.”

Ray. Care:
Yeah.

Jason Redman:
I know I’ll be okay because I have grinded through those hard times. I have been out there where I’ve had to live off the earth for months on end. I know how to protect myself. I know how to build a team of people around me. And those are the things that I think for all of us, and you nailed it. In everything that you do, that’s what it gives you and it just makes it that much sweeter.

Jason Redman:
And all of it comes back to the word of the day.

Tim Kennedy:
Outwork.

Jason Redman:
Comes back to outworking all the other people around you. So let’s go, Tim. The way we close out the show is two minutes of motivation. And basically, each one of us, Ray and I, will kick it off, about 30 seconds just talking about just rapid fire about outwork, and then we’re going to kick it back over to you and let you close the show with your final thoughts on your word and being on our show. So Ray, you want to go first?

Ray. Care:
Yeah, I’ll start first, guys. Outwork to me means you have got to be the Colonel Hal Moore of your life. You got to be the first one up, the first one to step on the battlefield, the last one to get off the battlefield. You have got to put in the time, the effort to get the results. You have got to outwork the motherfuckers who are working, ladies and gentlemen.

Ray. Care:
And if you think success is going to come easy, it’s going to come without blood, sweat, pain, and tears, you are sadly mistaken, because I am here to tell you that if you want to be successful, you have to lay it all out on the line, 24/7, 365 days. We never close, we’re always open, rain, sleet, or snow.

Jason Redman:
I love it, man. So outwork, it all has to do with preparation. It all has to do with the amount of effort, energy, everything that you put into it ahead of time. Right now, we’re on the X, and I’ve got news for you, people. There will be more X’s, there will be more life ambushes out there. And the amount of work you put into it, the grinding that you do, the preparation that you do, the mindset that you build, forging discomfort in those times when others are comfortable means you will be prepared.

Jason Redman:
And the individuals who are ready for the crisis, who will get off the X are the ones who were willing to put in the work to outwork others when that time comes, because the rest of you right now that are in this, as a good friend of mine says, winter has come. And the people that prepared for it are ready. And the people that haven’t prepared for it, they’re all sitting here wondering, “Where do we go?”

Jason Redman:
Well, guess what? I’ll tell you what. If you haven’t prepared for it, you got to start working now, because sitting around waiting for something to happen isn’t going to change anything. So Tim, the Mr. Tim Kennedy, I’m turning it over to you for the final kick.

Ray. Care:
Bring us home.

Tim Kennedy:
So you don’t think some place in some dirt, horrible land that there’s somebody working to do harm? You don’t think there’s some evil guy that’s hiding behind a bush thinking about where he can rape some kid or there’s some dude sitting outside of a school that’s pissed off that thinks, “Man, I could just go in there and shoot those kids, shoot those teachers,” somebody who’s out there getting mad about something somewhere, that you have toilet paper and that you don’t, that you have food and that they don’t? They’re prepared.

Tim Kennedy:
And the only way that you’re going to have a chance is if you can outwork them. So my ask of you is, as soon as I hang up this phone, what do you think I’m going to go do? I’m going to go back to work.

Ray. Care:
Love it.

Tim Kennedy:
Nothing’s changing. So try and outwork me. Don’t outwork them. Outwork me.

Jason Redman:
Dude, love it. All right, guys. Well, hey, Tim, awesome, man. Please tell your son happy birthday from us.

Tim Kennedy:
I will.

Jason Redman:
Get back to that family.

Ray. Care:
Much love. Much love.

Jason Redman:
Get back to doing your thing. Nothing more important than family. And we’re going to wrap up this show today, another amazing episode, with a guy that is out there, he’s changing lives, teaching people how not to be sheep, how to be sheepdog. Tim, one more time, tell people where to go to find you.

Tim Kennedy:
SheepdogResponse.com.

Ray. Care:
Boom.

Jason Redman:
SheepdogResponse.com. Don’t be a sheep. Be the sheepdog. The wolves are out there. The crisis is coming. This is not the last winter we will see. And once again, this has been another amazing episode of the Overcome and Conquer Show. I am Jason Overcome Redman.

Ray. Care:
And this is Ray Cash Care.

Jason Redman:
And we are out.

Ray. Care:
Boom.

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